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Store worker fired for grabbing shoplifter
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 12/29/07 | Dave Gershman

Posted on 12/29/2007 6:08:47 AM PST by madprof98

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To: madprof98
Here's Kate's contact info:

Kate.Klotz@wholefoods.com
101 posted on 12/29/2007 4:30:17 PM PST by aruanan
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To: cake_crumb

I agree. If they let you walk out with stuff, why pay? If they try to stop, you can sue them.


102 posted on 12/29/2007 4:30:35 PM PST by newnhdad
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To: madprof98

im from nearby westland mi, and the job situation has gotten desperate,but thats michigan for you. the criminals are running the state, and granholm is no exception


103 posted on 12/29/2007 4:34:44 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (GO Tigers!!!!)
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To: All
better yet, they shouldn’t bother chasing any criminals because property belongs to everyone in the collective so we should be forced to give our stuff away to anyone that walks by for the greater good, right?

(sarcasm off)

104 posted on 12/29/2007 4:36:16 PM PST by newnhdad
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To: madprof98
"The fact that he touched him, period, is means for termination," said Klotz.

Is Klotz, et al, as klutzy with reasoning as with the use of the English language? It's grounds for termination, Kate, not means.
105 posted on 12/29/2007 4:41:03 PM PST by aruanan
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To: SLB
You drink organic coffee???!!! Oh. My. God. Only liberal, stuck-up, tree-hugging spendthrifts consume organic products! (well, that's what some here would have everyone believe!)

Oh, wait, you've also fallen for all the false/alarmist research that shows that pesticides, preservatives, artificial hormones, artificial colors and flavors are bad for you! You must be very gullible, like me! lol

106 posted on 12/29/2007 10:48:51 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (Heaven: preregistration is required!)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
You drink organic coffee???!!! Oh. My. God. Only liberal, stuck-up, tree-hugging spendthrifts consume organic products! (well, that's what some here would have everyone believe!)

Oh, wait, you've also fallen for all the false/alarmist research that shows that pesticides, preservatives, artificial hormones, artificial colors and flavors are bad for you! You must be very gullible, like me! lol

Did I also mention that we grind our own flour using organic wheat? That we buy most of our vegetables (we don't have a garden big enough) from an Amish farmer, or that Thanksgiving and Christmas turkey comes from a Mennonite? Neither of them use any chemicals and the turkeys are not much more than a Butterball. (We go to the Mennonite farm in October, pick both turkeys out and within 30 minutes they are killed, plucked, cleaned and ready for the freezer) We have recently round a source for American Bison that is hormone free and are using that in place of beef.

After having several family members die from cancer I can't see any reason to take a chance especially when the organic is available, is almost the same price, and tastes better.

107 posted on 12/30/2007 3:29:34 AM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: grellis
Retail workers are not trained in the proper apprehension of suspected shoplifters--that's the job of the store's assets protection, not the fishmongers, not the salesfloor associates.

In this specific case, the lowly fishmonger was ordered to help by the manager who was actively pursuing the shoplifter.

Think about what you're suggesting.

I did.

You weren't there, were you? The lowly fishmonger made a decision based on the circumstances and the instructions he had been given by his manager and decided that restraining the shoplifter was the proper course of action.

The police who investigated the incident had no complaint. Why do you?

I wouldn't expect a salesfloor associate to know how to do a police officer's job any more than I would expect a police officer to know how to process inventory for the health and beauty department.

Let's all stand around and get robbed and do nothing about it ourselves. That's what the police are for, isn't is?

108 posted on 12/30/2007 7:50:34 AM PST by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: canuck_conservative; nonsporting
Couldn't you argue it the other way too? He punched out, so technically he wasn't an employee at the time.

You are both correct, and such would form an excellent base for a legal complaint.

109 posted on 12/30/2007 7:53:33 AM PST by montag813
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To: Caramelgal
Even 30 years ago, working part-time in school at a department store, we were told to NEVER directly stop a shoplifter and to call security, they had the training and knowledge to deal with it. Lets face it, without this policy, the store has a lot of exposure to liability from the perp AND the employee. I don’t find this unreasonable (except that the litigious society that we live in is, of course, unreasonable).
110 posted on 12/30/2007 7:58:37 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: freepertoo
Easy for you to say, friend...

No, it's not easy for me to say. It's unfortunate that you were inconvenienced by someone trying to keep from being ripped off, but that's what can happen when criminals think they can get away with crimes.

... you weren’t the one run over and nearly killed ...

If you think you were wronged by the shoplifter who knocked you down or the employee who ran over you, do something about it aside from bellyaching about people who are tired of being ripped off by shoplifters.

... over someone who’d stolen a bottle of white out.

It's not about one particular bottle of white out, it's about being a target for everyone who thinks they can hit you whenever they want because there are no consequences.

I’d say something else to your ridiculous response, but it’s not worth it.

Go right ahead, I don't mind, if it would make you feel better.

111 posted on 12/30/2007 7:59:48 AM PST by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: nonsporting; SunkenCiv; grellis

bttt

The shoplifter was NOT a customer... He was a thief.


112 posted on 06/04/2008 8:14:02 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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