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Zogby: Obama Leads GOP Candidates (McCain, Huck ib dead heat, Mitt, Fred and Rudy get creamed)
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Posted on 12/21/2007 11:45:30 AM PST by meandog
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To: meandog
These suppositional polls are worthless.
The only way to match up two candidates is to match them up in debates, compare policies etc, after both of them are confirmed.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:06:49 PM PST
by
agere_contra
(Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
To: meandog
Zogby is a Democrat, but he’s also a Muslim, or at least his brother is. After 9/11 his polls get a lot more biased. This poll is probably cooked.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:07:40 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: MNJohnnie
Well considering how disastrous your non stop support a year ago for Socialist Jim Webb over George Allen, (ACU rating 92%)turned out, one has to wonder why anyone follow your advice and support McCain? You have a prove track record of continually backing closet Leftist political candidates simply on the bases of having once upon a time worn a military uniform Why should any Conservative listen Oh, would you SHUT UP already! I don't back military-avoiding, chickenhawk "macacas" (like the failed UVA jock who skirted 'Nam and who also failed as our senator and who you seem to have developed a major man crush for) ... it matters more to me that a Navy Cross-winning, former Reagan SECNAV at least has walked a mile or two in a pair of combat boots and so is invested in the men and women taking on the top threat facing this country: the Global War on Terrorism. BTW, he also has a Marine son involved (your candidate didn't...nor does your current heart throb whose 5 sons equate campaigning for him with patriotically serving their country.)
PHONY SOLDIER!
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:08:38 PM PST
by
meandog
(I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
To: meandog
Hillary would be horrible domestically, and bad internationally. Obama would be terrible domestically and an absolute disaster internationally, and may even re-convert to Islam once in office. Not a pretty picture for America if we can’t hold that office.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:12:20 PM PST
by
montag813
("How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!" -Churchill)
To: meandog
A November Zogby Interactive poll showed her losing by small margins to all five of the top GOP candidates.Zogby Interactive? LOL.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:16:26 PM PST
by
NeoCaveman
(If higher cigarette taxes discourage smoking, what...do higher Income Taxes discourage? - massgopguy)
To: eleni121
Actually this is probably the Doug Wilder Effect. You remember that when Mr.Wilder ran for governor of Virginia he was polling 12 point ahead of his opponent, but won by only 2 points. Exit polling indicated that people were telling pollsters that they would vote for Wilder because they did not want ot appear racist to the pollster, but when they got in the voting booth voted for the white guy instead. Same thing will happen to Obama.
Any poll about Obama’s chances will be tainted because people don’t want to be perceived as racist.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:21:28 PM PST
by
Emrys
(Fashion says "Me, too." Style says, "Only me.")
To: meandog
This is why we have campaigns.
I think that a few months of a strong Republican candidate telling the nation about B. Hussein Obama's real positions and record, his muslim background, and the truth about his phony "Afro-Centric" church affiliation, and he will be lucky to do as well as McGovern.
To: meandog
I am sorry I have met Webb & have had the displeasure of having to work with him during those Reagan years.
Webb is fundamentally a jack-ass !
He has a chip on his shoulder a mile high.
I was picked to work with him on a DOD project back in those RR years even though I was quite young and new to the DOD world. It was felt since I come from the red-neck Appalachian world that Webb is so proud of, even though a mere youth (Then!) perhaps I could communicate with him !(I couldn’t !) He tolerates NO disagreement even when the matter at hand is something that he has no education, training or experience in. In fact he acts if his ignorance of a subject endows himself with a special insight!
He was a flop as a Navy Sec mainly because he couldn’t & wouldn’t work with anyone. (So it wasn’t just me!)
We are seeing similar displays of his childish petulance here in the Senate as our Va senator. Of course since its so hard to actually measure success in a legislative job, Webb will probably be there forever. All a Senator has to do to be judged "successful" is posture & draw attention to himself, skills Webb has in abundance.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:48:20 PM PST
by
Reily
To: All
This comparison is too soon to be meaningful in a non partisan mix targeted poll. This is strictly name recognition.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:51:24 PM PST
by
Owen
To: meandog
Zogby will always have polls that are slanted to create controversy, so he can get more press.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:53:17 PM PST
by
OPS4
(Ops4 God Bless America!)
To: Cicero
John is Catholic, I know personally.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:53:54 PM PST
by
Wilum
(Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
To: Wilum
This has turned into quite a little kerfuffle, leaving the Zogby people with a lot of explaining to do. Charles Franklin at Pollster.com takes the last Zogby poll that purported Clinton losing to the Republican wanna bes and tears it apart from top to bottom.
http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26617
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:55:50 PM PST
by
OPS4
(Ops4 God Bless America!)
To: Wilum
Zogby’s brother James is head of the Arab American Institute. If you say John is Catholic (Maronite Catholic?) then I presume that’s correct.
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posted on
12/21/2007 12:59:47 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Cicero
John Zogby (born 1948) is a noted Lebanese American political pollster and first senior fellow at The Catholic University of America’s Life Cycle Institute. He is the founder and current President/CEO of Zogby International, a polling firm known for both phone polling and interactive, Internet-based polling
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posted on
12/21/2007 1:04:31 PM PST
by
OPS4
(Ops4 God Bless America!)
To: OPS4
Ed Rollins: Huckabee Will Win Iowa (Says His Candidate is Most Like Reagan)
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posted on
12/21/2007 1:06:47 PM PST
by
OPS4
(Ops4 God Bless America!)
To: meandog
it matters more to me that a Navy Cross-winning, former Reagan SECNAV at least has walked a mile or two in a pair of combat boots and so is invested in the men and women taking on the top threat facing this countryAh, yes. If only he was a conservative.
To: meandog
I do not trust Zogby. He has Arab ties. ‘Hussein’ Obama would be fine with him; hence, this promotional poll.
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posted on
12/21/2007 5:15:12 PM PST
by
esopman
(Blessings on Freepers Everywhere (and Their Most Intelligent Designer))
To: AmericaUnited
You might be forgeting the power of the left wing media in the US.
They will make Osama Obama look like a new idea for a ruined Country which Bush caused.
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posted on
12/21/2007 6:32:28 PM PST
by
oldtimer
To: montag813
Hillary would be horrible domestically, and bad internationally. Obama would be terrible domestically and an absolute disaster internationally, and may even re-convert to Islam once in office. Not a pretty picture for America if we cant hold that office.I concur...that's one of the reason I believe we should back McCain as he shows the best chance of beating both.
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posted on
12/21/2007 7:54:34 PM PST
by
meandog
(I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
To: meandog
zogby,
about as trustworthy as quinipiac.
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posted on
12/21/2007 7:56:15 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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