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CA: More flee state than move in
LA Times ^ | 12/20/07 | Sharon Bernstein and Paloma Esquivel, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

Posted on 12/19/2007 11:17:15 PM PST by BurbankKarl

California's population continued to grow modestly in the last fiscal year despite a significant exodus of residents to other states, according to a state report released Wednesday.

The annual study by the Department of Finance showed that 89,000 more people moved out of California than moved here from elsewhere in the United States. California's population did grow in fiscal 2007 -- but the growth rested on births and the arrival of more than 200,000 immigrants from other countries.

The shift dovetails with the state's weakening economy and is most likely related, said Howard Roth, chief economist for the Department of Finance.

Those who left, Roth said, were fleeing an economy in which just 5,800 jobs per month were created -- down from more than 20,000 per month the previous year. Jobs were lost in housing, finance, construction and other sectors, and key indicators like the number of automobiles sold were also down, he said.

People who are leaving the state, he said, are probably doing so because they believe they'll do better elsewhere.

"If you're someone in finance and you haven't already been laid off . . . or if you've lost your job here and maybe your house, maybe you're thinking that there are better prospects out there in other states," he said.

The trend toward reduced "domestic migration" -- which began in 2005 and has increased dramatically since -- is a sharp turnaround from nearly a decade of sustained population growth.

In Los Angeles County alone, nearly 115,000 fewer residents came from other states and California counties than moved to other states and counties. The county ended up with a total increase in population thanks to 91,000 births and an influx of 70,000 residents from foreign countries. (The county now has roughly 10,294,000 residents).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca; california; exodus; fabiannunez; immigration; liberalism; villaraigosa
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1 posted on 12/19/2007 11:17:19 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Will the last responsible person leaving the state, please turn off the lights.


2 posted on 12/19/2007 11:28:23 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Get the U.S. out of the U.N. and get the U.N. out of the U.S.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Unfortuniately they’re moving to Colorado and bringing their money, crime, and leftist beliefs here. They’re turning this state into the same mess that they created there. Don’t “Californicate” Colorado used to be our model. It’s too late.


3 posted on 12/19/2007 11:38:39 PM PST by DISCO
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To: BurbankKarl

Other countries? Really, what “countries” might that be...


4 posted on 12/19/2007 11:41:15 PM PST by Professional
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To: BurbankKarl
In Los Angeles County alone, nearly 115,000 fewer residents came from other states and California counties than moved to other states and counties. The county ended up with a total increase in population thanks to 91,000 births and an influx of 70,000 residents from foreign countries.

The new Mexico City, Sao Paulo, New Delhi, Islamabad, Jakarta, etc. - a slum masquerading as a city, controlled by the liberal elites that live well at the expense of the misery of the teaming masses of poverty-stricken illegal aliens.

It is the middle class that has abandoned all hope and evacuated to higher economic ground.

5 posted on 12/19/2007 11:43:44 PM PST by anymouse
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To: DISCO

It happened to Oregon, Washington State, Arizona, Nevada and parts of Texas too. Then again a generation the New Yorkers moved to CA and FL too. ;)


6 posted on 12/19/2007 11:46:28 PM PST by anymouse
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To: BurbankKarl

So who’s going to be “the last white farmer in Zimbabwe”?
Who will be the chump who couldn’t read the writing on the wall?

Will the last tax-paying American to leave Kal-ee-fornia please turn out the lights?


7 posted on 12/19/2007 11:48:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Lights will soon be illegal while illegals will be legal.


8 posted on 12/19/2007 11:50:00 PM PST by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Ah-nold IS Hans Gruber.


9 posted on 12/19/2007 11:51:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: DISCO
Unfortuniately they’re moving to Colorado and bringing their money, crime, and leftist beliefs here.

Criminals and leftist moving out? Bad spellers too?

That's a major plus and good news for California!

Lets hope the trend continues.

10 posted on 12/19/2007 11:53:44 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

Yeah - Most of those entering the state just walk in. Or are carried across with(in) their mother.
Very few “move” into CA nowdays.


11 posted on 12/20/2007 12:05:00 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: BurbankKarl

I’ll bet those that entered the state are real productive members of society and not feeding at the government handout trough. /s


12 posted on 12/20/2007 12:20:34 AM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: BurbankKarl

High taxes, high crime, over regulation - it’s a liberal paradise. The only people who want to live there are the people with their hands out.

What was that about reaping what you sow?


13 posted on 12/20/2007 12:43:21 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: anymouse
It is the middle class that has abandoned all hope and evacuated to higher economic ground.

The middle class has been fleeing Los Angeles for at least two decades. My family left L.A. and the state around 1990.

14 posted on 12/20/2007 12:56:41 AM PST by Victoria_R
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To: DISCO
Don’t “Californicate” Colorado used to be our model. It’s too late.

Ours was "Welcome to Montana. Now go home!"

Same problems here.

15 posted on 12/20/2007 1:04:44 AM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: BurbankKarl
Those who left, Roth said, were fleeing an economy in which just 5,800 jobs per month were created -- down from more than 20,000 per month the previous year. Jobs were lost in housing, finance, construction and other sectors, and key indicators like the number of automobiles sold were also down, he said.

Those who left are the kinds of citizens no state (or country, "Hello, England") can afford to lose,

16 posted on 12/20/2007 1:04:57 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Tzimisce
High taxes, high crime, over regulation - it’s a liberal paradise. The only people who want to live there are the people with their hands out.

Hmmm. I noted your profile has a Missouri flag.

There considerably more crime in your biggest city compared to California's biggest city.

As a matter of fact, Kansas City Missouri beats LA in every single major crime category.

Kansas City and Los Angeles Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People

"What was that about reaping what you sow?"

If you don't respond, I'll know your shoe is stuck in your mouth.

17 posted on 12/20/2007 1:11:06 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: roamer_1

Makes me glad I’m on the other side of the country. Except here in Pennsylvania we’re picking up a lot of the drek from New York and New Jersey - - now that the scumbags have fouled those nests and fled, they’re coming HERE and voting Democrat.


18 posted on 12/20/2007 1:13:43 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dragnet2

You’re comparing a city of 450,000 to a city of nearly 4 million?


19 posted on 12/20/2007 1:19:57 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dragnet2
Great graph you got there with no scale on the y-axis. Here's one that's just as meaningful:


20 posted on 12/20/2007 1:28:05 AM PST by thecabal
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