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To: drunknsage
Typical Garbage!
I spent the first 18 years of my life in the Church. I am no longer a practicing Mormon. While some of the above statements are correct...most of them are crap. Mormons do not believe they will become gods. They dont preach that mary was humped by god....I mean come on. Women do not need a secret code ring or password to get into heaven.
Ive dealt with enough bigot Christians to never step foot in a church again. The southern Baptists i dealt with in highschool were the worst. Bashing another religion is not very christ-like...and thats the whole point of being a christian right...to be like christ?
/Rant off


You are quite incorrect. The LDS faith teaches quite clearly that the faithful will indeed become gods. To wit: "As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become." The Doctrine and Covenants says this:

19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, ...Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; ...and shall inherit thrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, ...and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever.
20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them.
21 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my law ye cannot attain to this glory.
22 For strait is the gate, and narrow the way that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the lives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me. (Doctrine and Covenants 132:19-22)


Further, Brigham Young, in the Journal of Discourses specifically says that Jesus was NOT born by the Holy Spirit but after copulating with God the Father:

Now to the facts in the case; all the difference between Jesus Christ and any other man that ever lived on the earth, from the days of Adam until now, is simply this, the Father, after He had once been in the flesh, and lived as we live, obtained His exaltation, attained to thrones, gained the ascendancy over principalities and powers, and had the knowledge and power to create—to bring forth and organize the elements upon natural principles. This He did after His ascension, or His glory, or His eternity, and was actually classed with the Gods, with the beings who create, with those who have kept the celestial law while in the flesh, and again obtained their bodies. Then He was prepared to commence the work of creation, as the Scriptures teach. It is all here in the Bible; I am not telling you a word but what is contained in that book.
Things were first created spiritually; the Father actually begat the spirits, and they were brought forth and lived with Him. Then He commenced the work of creating earthly tabernacles, precisely as He had been created in this flesh himself, by partaking of the course material that was organized and composed this earth, until His system was charged with it, consequently the tabernacles of His children were organized from the coarse materials of this earth.
When the time came that His first-born, the Saviour, should come into the world and take a tabernacle, the Father came Himself and favoured that spirit [Mary] with a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it. The Saviour was begotten by the Father of His spirit, by the same Being who is the Father of our spirits, and that is all the organic difference between Jesus Christ and you and me. And a difference there is between our Father and us consists in that He has gained His exaltation, and has obtained eternal lives. The principle of eternal lives is an eternal existence, eternal duration, eternal exaltation. Endless are His kingdoms, endless His thrones and His dominions, and endless are His posterity; they never will cease to multiply from this time henceforth and forever. (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, pp. 217-218)


Lastly, women must be called by their husbands:

LDS Apostle Erastus Snow preached on Sunday, Oct. 4, 1857:

Do the women, when they pray, remember their husbands?... Do you uphold your husband before God as your lord? "What!—my husband to be my lord?" I ask, Can you get into the celestial kingdom without him? Have any of you been there? You will remember that you never got into the celestial kingdom [during the temple ceremony] without the aid of your husband. If you did, it was because your husband was away, and some one had to act proxy for him. No woman will get into the celestial kingdom, except her husband receives her, if she is worthy to have a husband; and if not, somebody will receive her as a servant. (Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 291)



53 posted on 12/19/2007 1:21:38 PM PST by rjsimmon
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To: rjsimmon; drunknsage
Look, I'm no Mittwit fan but let's judge him on the content of his character rather than the content of his church. There are enough weird religious practices out there and they are not all connected to the LDS bunch. For instance: most Roman Catholics believe in transubstantiation (literally the turning of wine and bread into the body and blood of Christ at Eucharistic services. Some of you fundamentalists hold that the earth is only 10,000 years old and created in just six 24-hour days...as well some Pentecostals still play with snakes in church, daring God to have them bite. ALL religion has quirks.
57 posted on 12/19/2007 1:35:12 PM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: rjsimmon

“The LDS faith teaches quite clearly that the faithful will indeed become gods. To wit: “As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.”

NOOOOOOOOO we do not become gods....and God was never a masn...He has always been God...,Jesus Christ who was the Word of God became flesh in order to die for us on the cross and be resurrected on the third day...the perfect sacrificial Lamb...the Lamb of God...He died in our place though we are worthy of death for our sins...

“Brigham Young, in the Journal of Discourses specifically says that Jesus was NOT born by the Holy Spirit but after copulating with God the Father:”

Who cares what Brigham Young said or thought? Jesus Christ was born of a virgin...of the Holy Spirit...God does not need to have physical sex in order to create a baby...

God who said Let there be light and there was...LIGHT...and let us make man in our own image...and created a man, Adam...is Spirit and has no earthly body with which to do anything merely mundane like have sex...SWhere do you get these dumbn ideas about God? LOL

“women must be called by their husbands”

Why? Yes I know you will call me a feminist because I believe that Jesus came to save both men and women and that women are “heirs together in the grace of life” 1 Peter 3:7 and that Jesus died for women too ...women have the same standing before God that men do...Jesus died for the sins of boyth men and women and a woman can be saved and born again and go to heaven while her unsaved husband ends up in Hell...

There is no secret name for the wives...we dont need one we have a personal Savior, Christ Jesus...It was a finished work of redemption on the cross when Jesus shed His blood for me...


109 posted on 12/19/2007 6:25:34 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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