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Giuliani faces 9/11 backlash
The Los Angeles Times ^ | December 19, 2007 | Stephen Braun

Posted on 12/19/2007 11:56:23 AM PST by Phil Harmonic

WASHINGTON -- In an effort reminiscent of the bitter "Swift Boat" campaign during the 2004 presidential race, a group of New York firefighters who lost sons in the Sept. 11 World Trade Center attacks is organizing a political committee to take on former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani in Republican primary states.

A leader of the 9/11 Firefighters and Families group met Tuesday with union leaders and political consultants, readying plans to set up a tax-exempt committee that would fund appearances and a media drive against Giuliani.

Jim Riches, a New York deputy fire chief whose firefighter son was killed during the attack, said the group aimed to raise doubts about the central premise of Giuliani's presidential campaign -- his leadership role on Sept. 11. "If we have to follow him around all 2008 we'll do it," Riches said.

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The 9/11 group is already being compared by some political observers to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group that damaged the candidacy of Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) in 2004 by impugning his Vietnam War service in the Navy. Both groups feature a self-sustaining constituency of passionate supporters and are aided by outside political forces eager to use them as vehicles in the presidential race.

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The 9/11 group's effort to raise questions about Giuliani's performance before and after the attacks "takes on Rudy's strength," said Republican consultant Tom Edmonds. "I'm not sure that will go over with an American public that was impressed with what they saw."

But Riches and fellow activists, seared by their losses and offended by Giuliani's emphasis on Sept. 11 as the crucible of his leadership, say they expect to travel to primary states early in the new year to turn up the heat on the former mayor.

"Stay tuned," Riches said.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chosen3; kerrytoady; propaganda; swiftboating
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LAT's Stephen Braun (one of the "gatekeepers" of Kerry's military records (cough) "release" charade) tries to resuscitate interest in the now comatose "swiftboating" of Giuliani by another contingent of "unassailable 911 victims" (thank you Ann Coulter)...not that Mr. Braun covets succesful "swiftboating" mind you
1 posted on 12/19/2007 11:56:28 AM PST by Phil Harmonic
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To: Phil Harmonic

What is amazing is that with Giuliani talking about 9/11 so much, he has had no time to read about 9/11, to read the 9/11 Commission report and to realize that 9/11 was blowback, the American government created 9/11 by intervening overseas for so many years.

Saddam and Osama were both employees of the CIA, trained by the CIA and armed by the CIA

Osama and Bush used to be good friends, oil buddies

Giuliani and his 9/11 rhetoric about them attacking us due to our freedom shows his stupidity, he is not qualified to run a Dairy Queen let alone the country


2 posted on 12/19/2007 11:59:56 AM PST by TracyTucson (Teachers : Overpaid and Underworked........ Eliminate > ADA, EOE, NLRB, SS, DOE)
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To: Phil Harmonic
The Ground Zero Health Care Myth.
3 posted on 12/19/2007 12:02:45 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: TracyTucson

intervening? is that what were calling it...

i think your on the wrong website. moveon.org is down the street.


4 posted on 12/19/2007 12:03:17 PM PST by abstracTT
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To: TracyTucson

Mr Chomsky, you really are on the wrong forum.

See who you’re in bed with, Rudy-haters?


5 posted on 12/19/2007 12:03:58 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: TracyTucson
Osama and Bush used to be good friends, oil buddies

WTF?
6 posted on 12/19/2007 12:05:23 PM PST by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: denydenydeny; TracyTucson
I think she was being sarcastic and forgot the </sarc> tag.
7 posted on 12/19/2007 12:05:54 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: TracyTucson

Ask your physician about Thorazine.


8 posted on 12/19/2007 12:06:30 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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Mod...how ‘bout sending this troll to Zotlandia?


9 posted on 12/19/2007 12:08:19 PM PST by Phil Harmonic
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To: Phil Harmonic

This ain’t the same as the Swift Boaters at all. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth actually served WITH John F’n Kerry, some on the same boat. These folks weren’t with Rudy to see with their own eyes what he did.


10 posted on 12/19/2007 12:08:23 PM PST by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: Bon mots; denydenydeny; TracyTucson

Wow! I was fooled... I thought that the comments were too far out there to be serious and when I looked up the account it said she was a member of FR since 2006, so didn’t think TracyTucson was a troll.

I assumed she/he/it forgot the /sarc tag.

OTOH - w/regard to the article’s comments on Rudy - Wishful thinking.


11 posted on 12/19/2007 12:08:28 PM PST by Bon mots
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whoa. her post was pulled.

whats the point of joining on a conservative site?


12 posted on 12/19/2007 12:08:28 PM PST by abstracTT
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To: TracyTucson

Speaking of stupidity....


13 posted on 12/19/2007 12:09:54 PM PST by moonhawk (Fear and Loathing in '08: Hunter/Thompson)
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To: TracyTucson

We knew you only so briefly. Bye Bye.


14 posted on 12/19/2007 12:09:55 PM PST by McGruff (A "Big Time" Fred Thompson supporter!)
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To: abstracTT
Certainly not to post garbage like #2 on this other thread.
15 posted on 12/19/2007 12:12:42 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: McGruff

Well, her tagline wasn’t so bad:

“Teachers : Overpaid and Underworked........ Eliminate > ADA, EOE, NLRB, SS, DOE”


16 posted on 12/19/2007 12:13:08 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: abstracTT

She was pulled, not her post.


17 posted on 12/19/2007 12:13:49 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Phil Harmonic

Can I have my topic back now? Thank you Mod


18 posted on 12/19/2007 12:16:12 PM PST by Phil Harmonic
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To: Phil Harmonic

I was thinking “Troofer”....

Jim Riches, ‘nuff said.


19 posted on 12/19/2007 12:19:22 PM PST by Baladas
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To: Phil Harmonic

Once 9/11 survivors become partisans they debase themselves into corrupt political hacks. I’m not a Rudy supporter but I’m sick of listening to these whiners. They exploit the emotionalism of a national tragedy to serve the ends of corrupt union bosses and the Democrats. A hack is a hack.


20 posted on 12/19/2007 12:19:29 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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