Posted on 12/19/2007 5:34:25 AM PST by 50mm
“”Don’t try too hard to get the nutjob banned yet,...”
LOL
I’ve been here a few years... you can not find one single post I’ve ever made suggesting any “conspiricy” re: 911.
Nice try though
It might be better if you studied a bit of history, before you take swipes at those who do. Japan attacked us at Pearl Harbor. We immediately (next day) declared War on Japan, and the next day, Hitler declared war on us, because of his alliance with Japan. We then declared war on Germany.
While I do not agree with Ron Paul on Korea, Viet Nam or even the first Gulf War, those are questions over which honorable men may differ. He is "spot on," in saying that we have no business waging war to change other people's cultures. See what George Washington "had to say" about the current U.S. foreign policy:
1) Then, who else?
2) Just what part do you believe OBL played?
3) Just what part do you believe the "others" played?
4) Who ran the show?
5) Who IS running the show?
Inquiring minds want to know...
“But in a recent post you bring into question whether OBL was actually responsible for 9/11.”
read post 117
I'd say this is as close as anything I've seen on this forum: Your post #101.
Further explanations are in order I believe...
Uh, . . . "if one is to believe he is responsible for the 911 attacks and if one is to believe what he wrote," sounds pretty conspiratorial to me. You then followed it up with, "I believe OBL was in large part responsible," which clearly suggests that you believe that there are others who have some responsibility.
Already did and responded. Not good enough, I'm afraid.
1) Then, who else?
2) Just what part do you believe OBL played?
3) Just what part do you believe the “others” played?
4) Who ran the show?
5) Who IS running the show?
Inquiring minds want to know...
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I have not a clue. To think that OBL thought up of the idea, recruited 100% of the nutters needed to figure out the logistics, as well as the execution of the attack is simply ridiculous.
That’s like saying Rummy planned every step of Gulf War 2. It’s probably an impossible task for one human being to do so.
read post 117
If anything, post 117 furthers my belief that you think there was a conspiracy.
“Nevertheless, can you provide a source for any statement prior to the fall of 1990 where OBL made any mention of this?”
I will do my best to hunt a statement down.
Oops! I guess you just did (see below)...
To think that OBL thought up of the idea, recruited 100% of the nutters needed to figure out the logistics, as well as the execution of the attack is simply ridiculous.
If this were true, then there was a conspiracy. And you just admitted you believe it.
“If anything, post 117 furthers my belief that you think there was a conspiracy.”
You can believe what ever you want too...again...please find one single post I’ve ever made in the years I’ve been on FR that alludes to any “conspiracy” re: 911
Unfortunately, we're discussing on solving the problem on both extremes of the issue. Paul wants to withdraw from the ME immediately and hope that they don't come over here. That's unacceptable to me. What's also unacceptable to me is building permanent bases there, continuously staying in the Middle East for years, possibly decades, and basically continuing fighting ...and fighting...and fighting...all the while our military becomes depleted to the point of a draft.
Whether or not Paul is wrong or right isn't the issue. The fact of the matter is that there's going to have to be some type of compromise brokered here on the war, or say hello to the Rats holding the WH and Congress. The vast majority American people don't want to continue the war, but the base of the GOP wants to keep fighting the war. I don't know about you, but the smart money's on the American people.
I am confident that if Paul is President and if we were attacked, there's no doubt in my mind that he'd take out the trash immediately and retaliate rather than screwing around with the UN. His comments here are discouraging, but I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Because for me, when it all boils down, Paul would do a much better job at protecting America than the Democrats, and I'd get the possibility of Constitutional, limited government as a bonus.
See post #131. Gotcha!
101 and 117 on THIS thread.
So you believe that Al-Qaeda cells were not conspirators and just operated independently?
I think that's highly unrealistic.
Dr. Paul denounced the Truthers and conspiracy nuts in his Glenn Beck interview last night.
If Ron Paul's dog got rabies, I wonder if he'd try to negotiate with it.
The emperor has no clothes.
I think that's highly unrealistic.
Ooh, another Truther emerges. Wonderful!
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