Posted on 12/19/2007 2:43:48 AM PST by Reagan Man
The Republican Party primary has so far been an exercise in none of the above. In their turns John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney seemed to be or seemed about to be frontrunners — only to fall back as the party's likely voters got a sharper look at each of them. Even my old boss Newt Gingrich, without even announcing, had a handsome surge from 4-5 percent to 18-20 percent in February — before falling back to single digits.
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Tell ya what. In 2000 I was posting in here that Bush could likely loose to Gore. I was laughed at scoffed at and ridiculed for saying it. Bush was gonna win by laa landslide were the post. But I knew Gore politics and the tactics. Not Gore Junior but the one who taught him all he knew Al Gore SR.
Al Gore Sr was a master at Me Too politics. It kept him in office for decades because of it. If the ticket had been Liberman and anyone else Bush would have faced a landslide loss like Dole. The tainted Gore almost managed to pull off a political feat of the century. Bush wasn't elected because of his positions. Remember it was Bush who said he and Gore were close on most issues. He was elected because he wasn't Al Gore.
Gore let Bush go as liberal as he wished then like Clinton vs Poppy and Clinton vs Dole ran right of him in platform. Hillary will do no less to the top four moderates considered the favorites.
We have an "Open Boarders - Compasionat Conservative" in Mikey.
God save us from another one of those!
The dems are at least as guilty of inter party hostilities as are the pubbies, and it seems a lot more nasty, presumably in honor of the clintons.
It seems to me that the problem on the right [relatively speaking] is that between the media and the party itself we are being herded toward another "more acceptable" candidate - acceptable to the extent that they'd fit in nicely with the other liberals in DC.
We are offered two east coast liberals, two western conservatives [both written off from the start] a couple of southern-ish odd balls [and sometimes Alan Keyes] for comic relief and a pompous former sailor who half the party hates.
That's not a blood bath - it's a SNL routine.
I'm just left to wonder whether we being set up for the eastern elite or the Arizona compromiser.
“Tell ya what. In 2000 I was posting in here that Bush could likely loose to Gore. I was laughed at scoffed at and ridiculed for saying it. Bush was gonna win by laa landslide were the post. But I knew Gore politics and the tactics. Not Gore Junior but the one who taught him all he knew Al Gore SR.”
Given that Gore was the VP of what was publically perceived as a successful presidency (i.e., the incumbant) you were just repeating the accepted conventional wisdom. Once Gore left the Democratic convention, they were pretty much tied down the stretch.
That doesn’t give me any confidence in your ability to figure out Thompson’s situation. Again, nothing more than your opinion plus and andecdote from your past.
Oops, left Fred out; wonder what that might mean?
Those were another brainchild of our infamous Adm Elmo Zumalt.
The brokered convention is the ROOTIE strategy. He figures to get enough votes on Feb 5th from large states to “control” the convention.
The other candidates had better decide among themselves that any of them are better than tootsie and they need to agree to support a consensus candidate OTHER than rootie.
No really I give his second Sec Nav the credit actually. About the time he took over was when things started getting fixed. There is something you didn't see. The breakdown of discipline that occured. If you didn't like what the divison officer of chief said in 1977 you said so long and went AWOL for 31 days and got your discharge usually without so much as a day in the brig. I can think of about 5 of my high school classmates who did just that. Like I said I was active duty then and saw the actual changes begin. I also remember when I got there PO1's with 16 years vested were calling it quits.
When I got out I was offered $15K and next rank. I was recommended for retention and my chief tried his best as I was in a critical rating. MM's did 6 and 2 sea/shore duty rotations. In 1982 when the recession hit I tried to go back in and the billets were full. No problem I had the full GI Bill and went to a state voc tech instead. BTW Reagan as good a POTUS as he was in re-building the military provided no funding for it. That is the job of congress as set forth in the Constitution. He did lead the congress around on a ring though.
LOL.
Fred Thompson has amazing popularity in TN and had huge approval ratings — people were MAD when he stepped down after his daughter’s death.
No really I give his second Sec Nav the credit actually. About the time he took over was when things started getting fixed. There is something you didn't see. The breakdown of discipline that occured. If you didn't like what the divison officer of chief said in 1977 you said so long and went AWOL for 31 days and got your discharge usually without so much as a day in the brig. I can think of about 5 of my high school classmates who did just that. Like I said I was active duty then and saw the actual changes begin. I also remember when I got there PO1's with 16 years vested were calling it quits.
When I got out I was offered $15K and next rank. I was recommended for retention and my chief tried his best as I was in a critical rating. MM's did 6 and 2 sea/shore duty rotations. In 1982 when the recession hit I tried to go back in and the billets were full. No problem I had the full GI Bill and went to a state voc tech instead. BTW Reagan as good a POTUS as he was in re-building the military provided no funding for it. That is the job of congress as set forth in the Constitution. He did lead the congress around on a ring though.
So says Texas????? After the senate trial vote Tennessee Freepers wanted his scalp.
It was rampant in 1971-72 as the drawdown from Vietnam continued along with demobilization that reduced the size of the military rapidly and significantly.
Gore couldn’t even win his home state.
Nope indeed he didn't. But he sure as the devil about defeated Bush now didn't he? Don't try and play DEMLITE in the DEMs playground. Bush got very lucky. But Bush himself said he and Gore were close on most issues. Even after Bush said it Oh No he's a staunch conservative were the cries. The man has given Ted Kennedy things that Gore nor Kerry could have delivered as the GOP under a DEM POTUS would not have ever allowed it but some are too dense to ever see the truth. Learn the lesson of Don Sundquist! Judging from some of the post in here if that RINO ran for U.S. Senate some in here would be telling me what a fine Republican governor he was and what a great senator he'll be.
Still promoting that tale-tale, eh? Try a less-informed audience.
Everyone on F.R. knows Thompson voted to convict Clinton on the important count, and gave an excellent, scholarly, article on the other. It’s here, in case you forgot it:
http://australianpolitics.com/usa/clinton/trial/statements/thompson.shtml
Run a moderate and Hidabeast will do like Hubby did twice and run right. Mark my words on it if you wish. The GOP will never learn. Even dense of Rockefeller Republican Poppy could have had a second term but he just couldn't stomach being a conservative and abandoned the course Reagan set in a matter of months. Of course Perot is the GOP favorite scapegoat for Poppy's bad choices.
The only hope the GOP has in 2008 is a Reagan Conservative. Only three are running and their names aren't Mitt, Rudy, John, or Fred. Fred is a McCain Liberal. He has told you so before but yet you and others won’t listen just as no one listened to what Bush actually said in 1999 & 2000 either. The DEMs never had a better POTUS in office to do their work for them than George Walker Bush. Learn the lesson of Sundquist. It was much easier to support a media generated urban legend myth conservative than to sift through his liberal past and make self determinations.
Oh yea uh huh. Sure. Fred not understanding what perjury is? Any lawyer can write a defense for it so what? Ray Blanton didn’t sell pardons either then./sarcasm
Wow, even with the source article, you still spew a lie.
That’s pretty impressive.
No I’m just not a SUCKER FOR SPIN that’s all.
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