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Unindicted Duke LAX players sue Duke University
abc11 ^ | 12/18/2007 | Locomotive Breath

Posted on 12/18/2007 11:12:12 AM PST by Locomotive Breath

By Tamara Gibbs

DURHAM -- In a filing Tuesday in Federal Court, unindicted Duke Lacrosse players are suing Duke University, the City of Durham, Duke University professors, Mike Nifong and the DNA lab involved in the case.

The suit also names doctors and nurses who treated the alleged victim the night she claimed she'd been raped at a party. The players are also suing City Manager Patrick Baker and former Durham Police Chief Stephen Chalmers. As part of the investigation, the unindicted players had to give up DNA samples and were named in the school paper.

In the 404-page lawsuit, the players say that Duke University, the City of Durham and the other defendants were part of a "conspiracy to railroad 47 Duke University students" based on "the transparently false claim of rape, sexual offense, and kidnapping made by a clinically unreliable accuser." Also in the lawsuit, the players say that the accuser's claim was "taken virtually from her lips and fashioned into a weapon in the hands of those who would leverage outrage."

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 88; dukelax; dukeu; durham; gangof88; lawsuit; libel; persecution; reputation; slander; suethebtrds
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To: Locomotive Breath

Every plaintiff feels they have cause. This one of those rare cases where normally lawsuit abhorrent FReepers can see it. Go figure.


221 posted on 12/19/2007 7:52:48 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Locomotive Breath

Fantastic. They should receive tens of millions each; starting out of the pockets of the 88.


222 posted on 12/19/2007 7:53:55 AM PST by Vision (" 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the Lord Almighty." Zechariah 4:6)
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To: EyeGuy; Locomotive Breath

“In many areas of the country, the jury system is broken, largely for reasons of racism and class warfare.”
.....ain’t that the truth!...I used to live in the Baltimore-Washington area and saw outrageous examples of jury nullification in the news every day....there’s a whole flock of lawyers out there who are channeling Johnny Cochran and winning big verdicts.

“Further, this entire affair was fueled by Nifong’s correct perception of the racist climate that exists in Durham.”
.....exactly!....he played Robespierre to the mob....all for political gain.


223 posted on 12/19/2007 8:22:26 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Locomotive Breath

This is one lawsuit I am happy to see. The treatment of these students was nothing short of disgusting.


224 posted on 12/19/2007 8:24:14 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: river rat
Yeah, good luck with that. If you had to “offer” him an honorable way, likely as he wouldn’t take it. I still can’t get it through my head that some of us who have been given the gift of life would choose so poorly and “LIKE IT”.
225 posted on 12/19/2007 8:46:02 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: STONEWALLS; xoxoxox
No doubt they’ll fight the lawsuit. The problem they’re facing is that this was filed in Federal Court. There is no guarantee that the jury will be filled with local riffraff . And whoever the Federal Judge is will not allow too much shenanigans.
226 posted on 12/19/2007 8:55:47 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: xzins; Locomotive Breath; Sue Perkick; maggief; ladyjane; writmeister; P-Marlowe
Xzins, I think I can sum up your position as this:

You have no sympathy for the students because they caused their own troubles.

If so, you should be consistent and also have no sympathy (and that includes civil matters) for those who are being sued, because like the students, they also engaged in actions which brought about severe consequences.

That being said, I followed this from early on, and many of us also agreed that the students should never have hired the stripper. We understood too that what followed wouldn't have happened because they did hire them. But we moved on pretty quickly because we also understood that what was emerging was terrifying and despicable. It's filth went far beyond anything the students did, and decency and justice required it to be addressed and opposed.

I have read enough of the positions of the other people I pinged to understand that none of us believes that if someone makes a mistake, that it is permissible for them to be penalized far beyond what is normally imposed for the mistake, and that it is also permissible for the persons administering that punishment to disregard the laws and procedures they took oaths to uphold.

This is where I perceive your core position seems to be. The students did something you didn't support. Therefore, any punishment, no matter how unfair was warranted. And any person administering that punishment was justified, no matter how corrupt.

And one last thing. If the students had not hired the stripper, the events following would have not occurred. And, Nifong might still be DA (assuming he won the elections) and none of those who have been exposed would have been disciplined. And most likely, many many people, like the students, would continue to be railroaded by a devastatingly corrupt system. Would that be a reasonable trade off to you?

227 posted on 12/19/2007 9:31:29 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: xzins
And if you’re gonna hire a stipper/hooker to entertain, then recognize the freakin’ risk.

It was a legal activity. What should the risk be? 30 years to life? Being murdered in jail for being a rapist of Black women?, having your parents penurized and sent to the hospital for Health duress?

How about if the risk for YOU jaywalking was to have your testicles burned off with a flame torch? Would you like to live in a world like that, Mr Prurient , phony Chaplain Man of God with no sense of proportion Self righteous mirror gazer?

228 posted on 12/19/2007 9:43:56 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: xoxoxox
“Duke administrators contributed to the problem by first advising players they didn’t need lawyers and then demanding that they explain what happened, the suit contends. They promised the explanations would remain confidential, but later relayed them to city police.”

Oh, God. I keep thinking it will get less painful, but like a train wreck I keep looking and can’t turn away. It never will get less painful. Every single thing we personally went through and to think there are people who believe that this is the way the Constitution is supposed to work. There are days I think a firing squad with every single deluded person responsible should be assembled and the trigger pulled. Make it quick, make it painless, but make it happen.

229 posted on 12/19/2007 9:44:23 AM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Nonstatist; Enterprise

both of you read the entire post #172


230 posted on 12/19/2007 9:47:17 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: xzins; Nonstatist
Your response confirms what I thought Xzins. Your view is that the students deserved whatever happened, and that the perversion of justice involved was not an issue to you.
231 posted on 12/19/2007 9:57:23 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Enterprise

read the first line one more time


232 posted on 12/19/2007 10:03:19 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: xzins

I did. My conclusion remains the same.


233 posted on 12/19/2007 10:10:26 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: jiggyboy

Thanks.

I thought it was “unindicted co-conspirator”?

Which is redundant.

So, we now have TWO words that were MADE UP.


234 posted on 12/19/2007 10:15:31 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Enterprise
I can't help you if you can't read.

Here's a link to : Sylvan Reading centers

235 posted on 12/19/2007 10:15:34 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: xzins

I can’t help it if you can’t think. Unfortunately, there is nothing I can link to to help you either.


236 posted on 12/19/2007 10:26:09 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: Enterprise

I was thinking of the high school level, reading comprehension section. Go ahead and check it out. It’s not a stigma for someone to want to better himself.


237 posted on 12/19/2007 10:28:56 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: bboop
"I LOVE it. This is how it should be."

no, this is NOT how it should be....

a decent and honest prosecutor backup-ed by decent and honest judges would never had let this go so far....not to mention decent and honest college professors.

I wanted these young men to have their day in court but I hope they don't drag this into a zillion dollar heist on their part....

238 posted on 12/19/2007 10:37:07 AM PST by cherry
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To: xzins

Say goodnight Dick.


239 posted on 12/19/2007 10:43:59 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: xzins; Enterprise

So xzins probably agrees with John Murtha’s snap assessment that the Marines at Haditha are war criminals. If only they hadn’t had the poor judgment to join the military they wouldn’t have been turned into baby killers.


240 posted on 12/19/2007 11:29:30 AM PST by Locomotive Breath
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