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To: mnehrling

I was about to post so I’ll just add the transcript:

STEVE DOOCY: Mike Huckabee has started running an ad in Iowa, where you’re at right now, also in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and in the back, it’s a windowpane but it also looks a lot like a cross. And, and, we had a guest a little while ago who said it was inappropriate to be using religion for political purposes. Congressman, I’m just curious what you think?

RON PAUL: Well, I haven’t thought about it completely, but you know, it reminds me of what Sinclair, uh, Lewis once said, he said ‘when Fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross.’ I don’t know whether that’s a fair assessment or not, but you wonder about using a cross like he is the only Christian, or implying that subtly. So, uh, I don’t think I would ever use anything like that.

DOOCY: So, uh, Congressm— you know, uh, Governor Huckabee is not selling fascism. He’s — simply sending out a Christmas message, anyway, just curious how you felt about that. Congressman, if you would sit right there in Des Moines just for a moment, we’re going to take a quick time out...


7 posted on 12/18/2007 7:44:30 AM PST by tlb
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To: tlb
Thanks, I only had the Drudge link.. this is worse, he is making a direct link to Huckabee.. now we may not like Huck, but to imply he is a fascist.. well....
24 posted on 12/18/2007 7:47:18 AM PST by mnehring (Ron Paul: 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'..)
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To: tlb
STEVE DOOCY: So, uh, Congressm— you know, uh, Governor Huckabee is not selling fascism. He’s — simply sending out a Christmas message, anyway, just curious how you felt about that. Congressman, if you would sit right there in Des Moines just for a moment, we’re going to take a quick time out...

Coo Coo! Coo Coo!

26 posted on 12/18/2007 7:47:34 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: tlb

I missed the Fox & Friends segment this morning but watched him earlier on CNN...the anchorwoman was asking him if he would run as a third-party candidate—pretty much urging him to do so—if he doesn’t get the Republican nomination. Of course Paul denied he had any intention of doing that (since that would have hurt his chances of gaining Republican votes in the primaries). It’s not hard to figure out why CNN would like to see a third-party candidate drawing away votes from the Republican nominee.


67 posted on 12/18/2007 7:58:02 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: tlb; Admin Moderator

I’m not a Paul fan, I’m a “Hunter Ranger.” But there are a lot of people on this thread getting the very wrong idea about the quote based on the partial quote in the topic.

#1 has the complete quote - can you put it into the main message?

The poster was disingenuous for making the partial quote *especially since the next words are

“I don’t know whether that’s a fair assessment or not, but you wonder about using a cross like he is the only Christian, or implying that subtly.”

The quote is actually a Sinclair Lewis quote he is discussing - and his criticism of Huckabee is valid, IMO.


118 posted on 12/18/2007 8:15:44 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: tlb
DOOCY: So, uh, Congressm— you know, uh, Governor Huckabee is not selling fascism. He’s — simply sending out a Christmas message, anyway, just curious how you felt about that. Congressman, if you would sit right there in Des Moines just for a moment, we’re going to take a quick time out...

He's not simply sending out a Christmas message. These ads are gone over with a fine tooth comb. They move the camera so that you can see the pane behind him and if you're just glancing at it, you'd probably think it was filmed in a church. I don't care if Mike is God's endorsed candidate for President or not, but it's not random that Reverend Mike has cross imagery in his ads. That's why he's surging in the polls-- social conservative evangelicals are going over to his side. It's a very clever ad, but people shouldn't act like what is clearly there isn't there at all.

And Mike has made the suggestion that God is on his side. I get a little antsy when a politician tells me I should agree with him because God will punish me for eternity if I don't do what the politician says.

122 posted on 12/18/2007 8:17:08 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: tlb
Huckabee never said he is the only Christian. Neither does he imply it. It's Christmas and Huckabee is not ashamed to acknowledge Christ. It says nothing about anyone else but Huckabee himself.
173 posted on 12/18/2007 8:42:26 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: tlb

Between nanny Huckster and liberaltopian Paul, I’m lossing patience with the stupidity of Republican voters.


334 posted on 12/18/2007 10:59:53 AM PST by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: tlb
RON PAUL: Well, I haven’t thought about it completely, but you know, it reminds me of what Sinclair, uh, Lewis once said, he said ‘when Fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross.’ I don’t know whether that’s a fair assessment or not, but you wonder about using a cross like he is the only Christian, or implying that subtly. So, uh, I don’t think I would ever use anything like that.

I guess Ron Paul would have a problem placing his hand on the Holy Bible to swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. He just lost any chance of getting my vote.

495 posted on 12/18/2007 1:39:37 PM PST by Godebert
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To: tlb
"RON PAUL: Well, I haven’t thought about it completely . . . "

That's quite apparent.
681 posted on 12/18/2007 3:50:20 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: tlb

So he used a quote, it’s not his own words. And he said he wasn’t sure if it applied or not in this case.

In my opinion, he was not saying Huckabee was a fascist. He was using a well-turned phrase about another circumstance to enforce HIS opinion that it was wrong for a candidate to wrap themselves in the flag and cross as if they were the only christian or patriot.

After all, Huckabee isn’t a fascist, he’s a socialist...

But wait. Would it be wrong to call Huckabee a smoking nazi? How about a fast food nazi? Doesn’t Huckabee want government to control my choices for me, to make us all into a more perfect race of humans?

Hmm..... I don’t agree with Ron Paul on the war or 9/11 or some other things, but hmmmm.....


742 posted on 12/18/2007 5:47:16 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: tlb

“STEVE DOOCY: Mike Huckabee has started running an ad in Iowa, where you’re at right now, also in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and in the back, it’s a windowpane but it also looks a lot like a cross. And, and, we had a guest a little while ago who said it was inappropriate to be using religion for political purposes. Congressman, I’m just curious what you think?

RON PAUL: Well, I haven’t thought about it completely, but you know, it reminds me of what Sinclair, uh, Lewis once said, he said ‘when Fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross.’ I don’t know whether that’s a fair assessment or not, but you wonder about using a cross like he is the only Christian, or implying that subtly. So, uh, I don’t think I would ever use anything like that.”

Absolutely bad taste in a reply, but what was Doocy asking the question for in the first place? If it’s really just a non-political Christmas message (which was my impression) there would seem to be no point in asking unless he’s trying to “create” a story, which he did.


759 posted on 12/18/2007 6:43:54 PM PST by JediHal (DON"T PANIC! (from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"))
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To: tlb
I appreciate Governor Huckabee's Christmas greeting, and I do not object to his sentiments. What bugs me is that there is a political campaign going on during December for an election to take place next November.In his book Energy Victory , Robert Zubrin states that the most hateful regimes are those who put the individual as a slave to a transcendent thing, be it a master race, a greater state or Allah. The Judeo-Christian tradition holds that Man is created in the image of G_d, as as such has certain rights that cannot be taken away.

http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Victory-Winning-Terror-Breaking/dp/1591025915/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198070697&sr=8-1

828 posted on 12/19/2007 5:32:28 AM PST by jmcenanly
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To: tlb
Governor Huckabee is not selling fascism

Yeah. Okay.

1,038 posted on 01/01/2008 6:52:40 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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