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Ron Paul: 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'. (Drudge's Title)
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Posted on 12/18/2007 7:41:42 AM PST by mnehring

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To: DakotaRed
Funny how the Paulistinians are always having to go behind him to “clarify” his gaffs.

The Ron Paul Ministry of Silly Explanations stays very busy. ;-)

581 posted on 12/18/2007 2:33:30 PM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Oh, really? I don’t recall Reagan rallying the draft dodgers and anti-Vietnam moonbats, or cozying up to tinfoil conspiratists. But believe what you wanna believe, I guess.


582 posted on 12/18/2007 2:35:27 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Oh, I think Hillary (or Obama) will pretty much ensure “we care” !!!!


583 posted on 12/18/2007 2:36:12 PM PST by tpanther
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
Your post is a perfect example why a good number of FReepers have no respect for Ron Paul supporters. You got called on something and all you offer is insults. Typical paulbot.

If you haven't figured it out yet ask your fellow Ron Paul supporters (I call them supporters because they have some class). I respect a few them as fellow FReepers and maybe they will tell you what you did wrong. You are embarrassing them also.


584 posted on 12/18/2007 2:36:20 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: TexasMatty

And you’ve done such a great job pointing out your purpose.

Look, just give me an argument, or even just a statement about my beliefs. I haven’t seen one from you, yet. You’ve merely called me a moron based on the fact that I disagree with you? I haven’t even called anybody here a moron yet. The funny thing is, you will also not find Ron Paul bashing anybody else, either. He puts his views out there for people to accept or deny. It’s your choice what to do with it. You haven’t even begun to argue.


585 posted on 12/18/2007 2:36:59 PM PST by Injun_Ear_Danny
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To: ArrogantBustard

Oh yeah? So you’re saying that whoever is “actually, physically, in Iraq” must be right? Well then if there is a single soldier in Iraq that believes that we aren’t winning, then the universe must explode or something, huh? How about you do a quick google search to find out if a single soldier believes that we aren’t winning. Or you can just dismiss their opinions because they differ from yours. So, I’ll check out actual arguments as to why we’re winning. Until I see a convincing one, I’ll hang out on my side.


586 posted on 12/18/2007 2:37:00 PM PST by Injun_Ear_Danny
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
The paleotrash referenced is paleoPaulie himself. Slick Willie was not paleotrash. He has long been a treasonous weasel from his days under Senator Halfbright, his leadership of antiAmerican antiwar demonstrations in London. Slick Willie is the real deal as a leftist coward and antiAmerican. PaleoPaulie is the half vast variety who likes to pose as an American while being an Al Qaeda mouthpiece, a paleopeacecreep and this generation's would be Neville Chamberlain or George McGovern. Anyone imagining him/herself a Republican, a patriot or an American who supports Dr. Demento owes George McGovern and his soviet masters an apology.

Maybe we would have been spared Slick Willie if Bush the Elder had the cjones to flatten Saddam and Baghdad when he had the chance under Stormin' Norman.

Lavender Justin(e) Raimondo is NOT a conservative guru and antiwar.org is NOT a conservative website. Ditto the Rockford Institute, Lewellyn Rockwell, or other paleostooges.

Islam, the Koran, Al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, the Islamic Brotherhood and Osama's 57 varieties of nutjobs are what cause the regional stability of the Middle East. If you want to ignore the importance of securing effective control of the Middle East, get back to us when oil is no longer necessary strategically and in our daily lives. And NO, "peaceful" (surrendermonkey) "trade" is not the answer. Nor is holding hands with Osama and Ahmanutjob while singing Kumbaya.

Right now, conservatives are busy humilating paleoPaulie and his museum piece enthusiasts. When that job is finished, it will be the turn of the Demonrat nominee to be beaten. Then, under the next GOP president (certainly NOT Dr. Demento and very likely not JulieAnnie), we finish the job started by Dubya.

In case you have not noticed, Al Zawahiri (or however he spells his infamous name) is threatening Sunni militia leaders and Shiite militia leaders alike with death (usual grisly details) if they have the continued nerve to ally themselves with the US against Al Qaeda, Look forward to the discovery of Dr. Al Zawahiri's corpse in a bombed out building in 2008.

The US is a great nation. It has great responsibilities and one of them is crushing lawless Islamic militancy. You may not like it. Putin does not like it. Red China does not like it. Ahmanutjob does not like it although it appears that he is now shutting off the flow of arms through Iran to Al Qaeda. PaleoPaulie certainly does not like it. That changes nothing and he and the paleos are irrelevant. The responsibility is still ours and those who oppose the mission of American troops in the field in wartime, oppose the troops and oppose our nation and give aid and comfort to our enemies in time of war.

If you are tempted to tell me that paleoPaulie served in the Air Force, don't bother. George McGovern bombed Trieste back to the stone age as a pilot in the Army Air Corps and that did not make him one whit more patriotic and just meant that he wanted to bomb that particular enemy. PaleoPaulie was a military doctor and never flew a plane in anger or trained to do so.

The campaign of Dr Demento highlights the many ways in which libertoonianism and conservatism are not compatible. Libertoonians will NOT inherit the GOP or the nation now or ever. If you don't believe me, just wait for 2008's primary and caucus results. That is particularly true if the Demonrat contest is close and does not allow the Demonrat antiwar trash to invade GOP primaries in an attempt to soften the blow to their paleopals.

Not that I feel strongly about any of this. Just sayin'.

587 posted on 12/18/2007 2:37:21 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemaen's Club)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Yes, the 'cult' of following the Constitution!

A few of the Paul supporters are pretty decent but the others are making you look bad. I am trying not to lump all of you with them. I'll need a scorecard or something.


588 posted on 12/18/2007 2:39:22 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: TexasMatty
RonPaul is the greatest man alive, RonPaul knows more about the Constitution than anybody alive, RonPaul will give everyone a pony, RonPaul is better than Jesus

No, Ron Paul will govern by the Constitution-that is enough.

589 posted on 12/18/2007 2:40:15 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Neocon's-the intellectual blood brothers of the Left-Yaron Brook)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The statement doesn't need defending, in context, it speaks for itself.

When your best defense is tossing out straw-men you need to take break...

Don't get started for Hillary, we need to save up that hostility for later next summer.


590 posted on 12/18/2007 2:43:09 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Injun_Ear_Danny
Try this from a very unlikely source: Murtha Admits “Surge” Is Working.

Oh, I'm sure you'll come up with some explanation on how it's bogus, or just one tempest in a teapot, or whatever. But it's just the tip of the iceberg here. Go find 'em podnuh.

591 posted on 12/18/2007 2:43:32 PM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: ArrogantBustard

I did check that out, but the pictures were blocked (because I’m at work). I’m not sure why pictures would show that we’re winning, anyways. Like I said in another response, just because one person (or even several) believe something doesn’t make it true. But that seems to be a fundamental flaw in most conservatives I’ve known—they believe something because they either admire somebody else who believes it or they were told to believe it.


592 posted on 12/18/2007 2:45:43 PM PST by Injun_Ear_Danny
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To: DakotaRed
Funny how the Paulistinians are always having to go behind him to “clarify” his gaffs.

Funny how you guys will believe anything - just to hope it fazes Dr. Paul.

Paul didn't "bash" Christianity, he didn't call Christianity fascism....good God you guys need to get a grip.

593 posted on 12/18/2007 2:47:16 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! All-time NFL leader in career passing yards)
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To: bcsco
That's because you expect everyone to agree with you.

No. I expect assertions to be backed up by evidence other than hearsay in a public forum. You asserted that Ron Paul is backed by "fascists" and that you would refuse to support him for this single reason. Not only have you failed to deliver or operate with a sound definition of fascist, you've failed to present sound evidence that Ron Paul is receiving support from fascists; people who by definition would be opposed to Ron Paul's ideas regarding individual freedom and accountability.

My expectations may not be particularly high, as I would think backing one's views, and sound definitions, to be part of a discussion regarding these matters. But my expectations are obviously higher than yours, since you expect only "silliness." If it's only silliness you expect, then you might look to other threads and forums.

594 posted on 12/18/2007 2:47:46 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: TexasMatty
Yeah buddy, Pauls going to win!!! Maybe not so much.

Oh, it is unlikely that Paul is going to win, but it is going to be fun watching how the GOP tries to rally its support for the candidate that does win.

I am going to enjoy waiting for those posts by the anti-Ron Paul zealots urging the Republicans to rally around the winner!

595 posted on 12/18/2007 2:48:03 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Neocons-the intellectual blood brothers of the Left-Yaron Brook)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, Ron Paul will govern by the Constitution-that is enough.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .... stop it, please

596 posted on 12/18/2007 2:48:06 PM PST by tx_eggman ("Believing without loving turns the best of creeds into a weapon of oppression" Eugene Peterson)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The New Deal was pushed through with this 'nationalist' view, that we need to 'pull together' and keep the communists from taking over.

The New Deal was peddled as our salvation from the Great Depression.

597 posted on 12/18/2007 2:48:23 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SJackson
At least he's a patriotic Christian fascist.

You're talking about the guy who just ripped Bush's foreign policy. Even Paul never said we had to "reach out" to our enemies.

598 posted on 12/18/2007 2:49:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! All-time NFL leader in career passing yards)
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To: lormand
"This is Freerepublic, not the fifth floor of your local insane asylum."

I haven't seen the whole interview, but from the fuller quote that was posted, Paul is talking about how when tyranny comes, people are often deceived by wolves in sheep's clothing.

The bible talks about this, and btw, the bible also talks about how the devil himself can masquerade as an angel of light. (click) If discussing that idea is insane, I guess the bible is also insane.

As far as this interview goes, the one thing I will criticize Paul on is - he evidently should have dumbed down what he was saying, or spelled it out like he was speaking to a 10 year old - for the people who are all too eager to (willfully) misunderstand him, in order to use it as ammunition against him.

599 posted on 12/18/2007 2:50:06 PM PST by incindiary
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
Paul is simply pointing out that should America descend into totalitarianism, it will be pushed there by a candidate claiming it needs to be done to protect American and Christian values. He’s simply warning us that facists tempt us with what we like.

Amen.

Facism grew as an excuse to fight against Communism, and it can grow likewise in this nation if we do not trust our Constitution to protect individual freedom.

600 posted on 12/18/2007 2:50:36 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Neocons-the intellectual blood brothers of the Left-Yaron Brook)
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