Posted on 12/17/2007 12:10:41 AM PST by Zakeet
With polls showing his lead gone in Iowa and narrowing in other early primary states, Mitt Romney has stepped up attacks on Mike Huckabee in the contest for the Republican presidential nomination.
Social conservatives especially are exercised by our porous borders, and Mr. Romney sees his surging rival's past positions on immigration as an inviting target. When Mr. Huckabee was governor of Arkansas, it turns out, he supported letting the children of illegal aliens, who met the same academic standards required of legal residents, apply for taxpayer-funded college scholarships. Heavens to Betsy!
During a sharp exchange with Mr. Huckabee at a recent debate, Mr. Romney said it's wrong to give illegal aliens access to revenue from hard-working taxpayers. "Mike, that's not your money," said Mr. Romney. "That's the taxpayers' money . . . [and] there's only so much money to go around." Following the debate, the Romney campaign released an ad reiterating the charge. "Huckabee even supported taxpayer-funded college scholarships for illegal aliens," says the narrator in a TV spot now airing in Iowa.
If illegal immigrants didn't pay taxes, Mr. Romney might have a point. But they do pay taxes, and by doing so they subsidize services that only legal residents can access. For starters, more than half and up to three-quarters of illegal immigrants in the U.S. are working "on the books," which means they're paying federal and state income taxes, just like the rest of us. They are also paying Social Security and Medicare taxes, even though undocumented immigrants are ineligible to receive benefits from either program. In testimony before the Senate Finance Committee last year, the Inspector General of the Social Security Administration noted that between 1937 and 2003, contributions to Social Security from unauthorized workers totaled an estimated $520 billion.
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However, the real joke here, is that while Huckabee claims to have, as of last week, shifted his position so that he now favors border control and strict enforcement, while his supporters posting on Free Republic are still advocating for open borders. Could it be that even the Huckster Brigade understands that Huckabee’s 11th hour conversion not withstanding, that a vote for Huckabee is a vote for amnesty.
Also, wasn’t it Huckabee that basically called those wanting to require proof of citizenship to vote in Arkansas a bunch of racists?
"They want to take chunks of Texas, Louisiana, New Mexico & Arizona. They think they still own it.., IMO.
[from the article]...But these voters can't be expected to support a Republican Party that takes its marching orders from Lou Dobbs populists when it's not taking them from xenophobic fringe outfits animated by reconquista conspiracy theories."
Thanks for playing.
Chump change came to mind and thanks for doing the math. I knew someone on the thread would beat me to the point, seeing as I was a late arrival.
If illegal immigrants won’t vote for Republicans because of border security, then they were never going to vote Republican anyway, because they are a bunch of Marxists who don’t believe in borders and who feel entitled to parasite off of America’s (CAPITALIST) economy.
Better to fight the illegal leeches and lose some votes than kiss their asses and lose the base because the illegals won’t vote for us anyway. Their good friend, the rat will promise them everything free as long as their keep him in office. They know if they do that they can get real Americans to foot the bill.
On this particular issue, the immigration hardliners want minimize the number of illegals working in the formal economy. Minimize the number of illegals paying taxes.
OTOH, when the issue switches to Social Security Totalization, the hardliners switch gears and maximize the number of illegals working in the formal economy. Maximize the number of illegals paying taxes.
The WSJ is filled with lies and deception and written by those who only want to profit and steal from America and let the country be damned. They are traitors to their country.
I think we have an expanding economy that needs illegal people.
We’ve aborted over 40 million potential members of our workforce.
Huckabee acknowledged that concept in his “values” speech in Washington earlier this year.
But I’m not pushing amnesty either.
We need a border fence and deportation in the short term.
But longterm we need to admit things.
Among the admissions that abortion has hurt our economy.
But don’t expect the Planned Parenthood supporting business elites to consider that.
The next president should lecture the hell out of them on that one.
They’d rather kill the unborn, hand out contraceptives and hire the illegals than change their ways.
It could be anyone of the candidates up there right now with the exception of Paul and McCain as far as I am concerned.
Huckster, it will be a cold day in hell when you get my vote. Illegals competing with my children for scholarships? Get your socialist self another job.
Many of them pay taxes alright, just under someone else's identity. I run across many illegals when I process rental applications. I also run a social security number search and the majority of Hispanic applicants reports come back to someone else. Also a good percentage of Russian and Chinese applicants are using someone else's ss#.
The problem with many RINO’s (free traitors and globalists) is they view the world at the wholesale level. In their way of thinking, if I added five families to your household in your town, it is good for you because each household income increased six folds (six families live in your house) thus you (the homeowner/community) benefited and should not be complaining. What they forget is that life becomes tough when six families must share one kitchen and two bathrooms, and traffic is hell when every household hits the street in the morning to get to work. Why should these RINO’s care, they live in gated MacMansion communities, that will zone 1+acre per new house, lobby against low income housing projects and better yet, lobby the state to have their surrounding undeveloped communities declared open space thus the packed rif rafs under their ecnomic schemes will never become their neighbors. Globalists and free traitors of our country (Dem and GOP) already schemed to have the middle class packed into townhouses or rental units, live next to the depraved poor while the rich fence themselves off in palatial rural estates with village ordnances to insure no development reaches them. In other words look how England is set up, and you are seeing how the US rich is trying to set the rest of America up.
Nice chart. I honestly think we’ve got up to 50 million.
Yes, but it is illegal to have false ID. How does anyone know who is an illegal alien?
USA as any nation will always have illegal immigration, it is a fact of life.
The question then becomes DO WE REWARD IT?
I have strange thoughts sometimes . . . if we were back in the days of three networks with 1/2 hour of national news per day, they wouldn’t be able to pull off this kind of spin. I guess the media would just report it as fact, sigh.
More spin from the "there shall be open borders paper".
The left and their corporatist allies are trying to destroy the nation. They are the ones m,aking this a race issue, while also funding groups like La Raza.
The WSJ wants cheap labor but deludes itself into thinking tha the uneducated poor will become Republicans if we say nice things. Idiots or liars.
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