[Coyoteman]

One example: of all the ranges of values possible for the universal forces, the chances of these being what they are (and where they are is EXACTLY necessary for our existance) are impossible to write down because the number of zeros would total more than the known number of particles in our universe. This is referred to as the “fine tuning” of the physical laws, not only implying, but requiring an intelligence to set them just so.

Or -- life just adapted to the existing conditions.

[MrB]

See, that’s an example of the ignorance - no offense, that these folks above are arguing from.

Yeah, “life adapted to the rules as they are” -

no, if the laws of the universe weren’t fine tuned as they are, there would BE NO STARS, NO PLANETS, NO MOLECULES, NO HEAVIER ELEMENTS THAN He. How would life adapt to that universe?

That’s why I say, you have to read the books instead of arguing from ignorance.