Posted on 12/12/2007 6:04:34 AM PST by libstripper
WASHINGTON - Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, asks in an upcoming article, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"
The article, to be published in Sunday's New York Times Magazine, says Huckabee asked the question after saying he believes Mormonism is a religion but doesn't know much about it. His rival Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, is a member of the Mormon church, which is known officially as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The authoritative Encyclopedia of Mormonism, published in 1992, does not refer to Jesus and Satan as brothers. It speaks of Jesus as the son of God and of Satan as a fallen angel, which is a Biblical account.
A spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints said Huckabee's question is usually raised by those who wish to smear the Mormon faith rather than clarify doctrine.
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It is unfair to do this during a campaign. We are electing a President.
Olivia,
I think this site is mostly political. The church has a very nice site where you can see the presentation and the Restoration presented. It is not quite like the anti-mormon sites and there are plenty of those you can visit. I am sure that there are plenty of posters who can give you every anti-mormon site imaginable. We are not 4th century Christians. Our doctrines tend to be more toward 1st century closer to the time of Christ which tend to be quite different from the 4th century model. Orthodoxy emerges from the 4th century and adoption of the Nicene Creed. From that time arises what The RC Church and Protestantism terms the Traditional church.
Now, I agree with you, in part at least.
He probably should not have said that, but there should be nothing offensive about that question.
However, lots are claiming he is a bigot, and that is where I take offense
There has been no deception by Mr. Romney nor the LDS church.
All of this of course flies in the face of the Bible as found in II Corinthians 11:14, "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." No mormon has as of yet answered the question as to how exactly Joseph Smith knew this Angel was legit and not Satan himself. And Matthew 5:18, "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law [Bible], till all be fulfilled." Or Galatians 1:9, "As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." And of course Mormons get around these verses by just affirming that you need LDS interpretation to properly understand the Bible, 'we' (mainstream Christians) just don't get it.
Would you vote for a Scientologist? If so, then I withdraw my comments. Somehow, I suspect you would not though (I wouldn’t).
Full disclosure, my Mom is a Mormon
Fox New can be “happy” or “unhappy”...whatever.
I was responding to what I saw on GMA - describing what Huck said as untrue.
If the mormons don’t like how he presented it, fine - then correct the man..
As it turns out, what he said is true, and I seem to recall Mitt making a recent speech using christian-friendly language.
But when genuine differences are pointed out, the mormons run for cover.
Why is that?
That Huckabee is willing to insult 5 million Mormons, who are overwhelmingly Republican, in his attempt to appeal to the baser instincts of certain religious bigots, doesn’t speak well for his political instincts nor his potential actions in office. How do Mormons know that a President Huckabee will uphold their Constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion? Short answer: after his recent statements, they don’t.
That he called those who opposed his kid glove treatment of illegals “unChristian,” and said they drank a different “Jesus juice” is abhorrent. It’s one thing to have a policy disagreement and quite another to impugn the faith of those who oppose you politically. The right to freedom of religion doesn’t extend to the right to use your own particular doctrine and worldview as a rhetorical club to pound those who disagree with you. Not when you’re a governor, and certainly not when you’re the President.
This is conduct unbecoming anyone, especially a potential President, who is supposed to be an inspirational leader for all Americans of every faith, even those whose doctrines he disagrees with.
You may want to take this up with Mormon powers that be they have a different opinion......
"...No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak..."(Gordon B. Hinckley, Current President of the LDS, Deseret News, Church News section, Salt Lake City, Utah, week ending June 20, 1998, p. 7)
"It is true that many of the Christian churches worship a different Jesus Christ that is worshipped by the Mormons.” (LDS publication, Ensign Magazine, May 1977, p. 26).
Okay, folks, let me be blunt. Because Mr. Huckabee is using things such as this to get votes and it is not reflecting very well on his character.
Au contraire....I have posted EXACTLY where the deception is using the leadership of the Mormon church’s own words and source citations.
Please see post #230. I accidentally posted my response to myself.
Well good for you. I thought we were electing a President and not the head of a church.
EXACTLY! And why would I vote for a man running for President who deliberately seeks to deceive the American people over matters of his faith????? What else will he attempt to deceive us on?
Thanks, I would have overlooked it.
I think you are overstating the situation in paragraph 1. All that has been said (at least all I am aware of) is one question from him (to which the answer was yes). He has plenty of statements affirming the freedom of worship for all.
I agree more on your second paragraph. That one concerns me a bit. The jury is still out in my opinion.
Well, we believe that Michael and Lucifer are “brothers,” And mortal enemies. Motmonism is. IMHO, a bizarre faith and deviates radically from traditional Christianity. But compared with the JWs,—or maybe the black Christianity of the Church that Obama attends, it is not so different. Maybe Huckabee ought to ask Obama the simple question: do you believe that Jesus is the 2nd person of the Holy Trinity, or a Prophet as the Muslims contend, or a great moral teacher, as the Unitarians think.
You know, if you read, you can find out that we don’t subscribe to the Nicene Creed, wherein, the committee developed an elaborate view of Christ. Ask any Mormon they will be happy to explain how we view Christ differently from the 4th century formula. This is not rocket science to note that we believe God, Jesus and Holy Ghost are separate individuals. This is clearly not what the 4th century committee rendered. Talking to Mormons is something some Protestants resist at all costs, but I have many Catholic and Protestant friends that actually enjoy talking with me about theology. They ususally don’t call me cultic or un-Christian but perhaps they haven’t been properly taught or maybe they just enjoy our company. What do you think?
I feel very sorry that you feel a person of another faith (and a hole church) wants to deceive you. There’s nothing else that I can possibly say then.
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