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CO gunman killed self
Breitbart.com ^ | Dec 11 02:47 PM US/Eastern | By JUDITH KOHLER

Posted on 12/11/2007 12:01:33 PM PST by ironwill

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) - The man who killed four people at a church and missionary training center died of a self-inflicted shotgun wound, police said Tuesday.

Matthew Murray, 24, was struck multiple times by a security officer at New Life Church Sunday but died after firing a single shot at himself, the El Paso County Coroner's Office concluded after an autopsy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: assam; banglist; donutwatch; goldencompass; gungrabbers; mediabias; murray; newlifechurch; zogbyism
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To: Deaf Smith
I've read no where in the past few days that he fired the last shot. What I've read was while he was down, he went for a (smoke) grenade, she told don't do it and she shot him again to stop the threat.

A story credited to an unnamed source, as I recall. I don't think Assam mentioned a thing about that in her press conference. It's becoming clear that the MSM badly misreported this in their rush to get something onto print and screen.

161 posted on 12/11/2007 2:19:03 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: Hoffer Rand
Security guard is still a hero.

Absolutely.

162 posted on 12/11/2007 2:22:09 PM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: mortal19440

If it’s true she lied the MSM should love her, she is trying to be like the Clintoons.


She only lied about cursing, after all.


163 posted on 12/11/2007 2:39:59 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: montag813
She is still my nominee for TIME Person of the Year, and frontrunner for the 2008 GOP Nomination.

Will you change your mind after she poses for PLAYBOY?

[/s]

164 posted on 12/11/2007 2:45:25 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: ironwill

OK, I’m confused. The radio news has been saying AK47 (squawk), AK47 (squawk), like parrots and now he has a shotgun? Maybe I’m getting my shootings mixed up.


165 posted on 12/11/2007 2:45:33 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Slapshot68

“costing her some sort of disciplinary action...”

She was fired and union arbitration backed the decision.


166 posted on 12/11/2007 2:47:11 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss..)
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To: Tree of Liberty

“This isn’t a video game. You only discharge a firearm at a living being if you have the intent to kill the target. All shots are “kill shots”.

That’s not true, in the movies they shoot the gun out of the perps hand while hanging upside down from a catwalk. I saw it. :)


167 posted on 12/11/2007 2:48:50 PM PST by dljordan
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To: dljordan
No, they are MAKING UP the story about the "shotgun" so that they can PRETEND that the lady officer who shot him DID NOT in fact stop him with a gun!

The LAST THING the leftmedia terrorists want is for ANYONE to begin to see that the Second Amendment might actually be of any use! They do NOT in any way want you to see that a small handgun stopped an individual with multiple hand guns AND an assault rifle! The Brady Handgun Control eliminate the Second Amendment group would be out of business...

168 posted on 12/11/2007 2:58:40 PM PST by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: lepton; UCANSEE2
I know lots of people who use profanity and 10 seconds later have no idea that they did so.

Particularly when you under stress as a LEO

169 posted on 12/11/2007 3:02:24 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Virulas

“The security guard still stopped him”

Absolutely. She stopped him, which bullet ultimately killed him really does’t matter.
He would would have killed more people if not for her. And the guy that yelled at him to get his attention is a hero also.


170 posted on 12/11/2007 3:03:20 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yeah I think it was a bus driver. She got off the bus and said something “derogatory” to him during an investigation.. he happened to tape it. She did not know about the tape.

Only reason I know this is because the idiots over at DU were making a big deal out of it already.. I wanted to see what their reaction would be to an armed person taking down a threat and sure enough.. they had dug up dirt on her already.

Oh well.. I could care less she is still a hero to me.


171 posted on 12/11/2007 3:10:44 PM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: woodb01
No, they are MAKING UP the story about the "shotgun" so that they can PRETEND that the lady officer who shot him DID NOT in fact stop him with a gun!

Based on what? The MSM's first day reporting? They got Katrina wrong, they got Clinton HQ wrong, they get a lot wrong in their rush to print rumors and hearsay. Nobody has denied that Miss Assam stopped the attacker. It was just Murray who finished off his own worthless life, is all.

172 posted on 12/11/2007 3:13:06 PM PST by SpringheelJack
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To: ironwill
I think the author of this piece, Judith Kohler, has an agenda. Check out this list of some of her work. She's a typical lib. But as a radical feminist, you'd think she'd be happy when a woman came out on top.

http://www.macombfeminists.org/kohler/index.html

173 posted on 12/11/2007 3:15:37 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: spunkets

“...makes no sense...”

Remember that this guy is several beers short of a case. So what makes sense has NOTHING to do with what he “thought” before he went into that church.


174 posted on 12/11/2007 3:30:47 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: loungeSerf
Now I know Ms Assam is apparently humble and not very outspoken but wouldn’t it have been part of her direct observation to see this POS off himself?

You might also have noted misquotes of her in several stories, etc.

Before I heard this news, I had suspected the gunman might have offed himself...note that she says she "took him down" and she couldn't offer details of the incident because it was under investigation.

175 posted on 12/11/2007 3:32:07 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: thefactor
you can still move around and be conscious

Anyone who's ever been deer hunting can tell the stories--heart-shot deer running 20 yards.

Same with woodchucks.

176 posted on 12/11/2007 3:34:21 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: dljordan
That’s not true, in the movies they shoot the gun out of the perps hand while hanging upside down from a catwalk. I saw it. :)

Doofus, those are magnetic bullets that are attracted to the gun. Regular people can't get those.

177 posted on 12/11/2007 3:34:26 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: rightazrain

“I admit I was being pretty defensive.”

Really? I hadn’t read it that way.

: )


178 posted on 12/11/2007 3:39:00 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (-Not Afraid of the truth, and the whole truth - Are you?)
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To: woodb01

It seems like you may be right. Among all these threads is a link to a Greg Knapp interview with the other hero, the unarmed guy that rushed the gunman. His name is something french so I have an impediment for remembering it.

He said he has know idea what the media are talking about, because he and Jeanne stood over the shooter discussing the situation like they were “in the parking lot.”


179 posted on 12/11/2007 3:39:27 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Dumb_Ox

Uh, I’m pretty sure I was defending her.


180 posted on 12/11/2007 3:45:40 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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