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CO gunman killed self
Breitbart.com ^ | Dec 11 02:47 PM US/Eastern | By JUDITH KOHLER

Posted on 12/11/2007 12:01:33 PM PST by ironwill

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) - The man who killed four people at a church and missionary training center died of a self-inflicted shotgun wound, police said Tuesday.

Matthew Murray, 24, was struck multiple times by a security officer at New Life Church Sunday but died after firing a single shot at himself, the El Paso County Coroner's Office concluded after an autopsy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: assam; banglist; donutwatch; goldencompass; gungrabbers; mediabias; murray; newlifechurch; zogbyism
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To: Joe Brower
"Can anyone confirm or deny that the CO shooter killed himself?"

No, but the 2 chief's refused to give a definite ID to the gun/round that caused his death yesterday. That didn't make sense, but in light of this it does. Looks like he was carrying a shotgun, not a rifle.

101 posted on 12/11/2007 12:52:11 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: basil
Anybody who has taken another human life, even in self-defense, is forever changed.

One of my regular prayers of thanksgiving is that I have never had to do that. I am perfectly well aware the taking of human life is a stain on the soul that can only be lightened by many tears, or covered with thick callous.

102 posted on 12/11/2007 12:52:20 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: mvpel
Some reports have him wearing a “ballistic vest” and a “tactical helmet”.

He must have been hit by at least one shot. Most reports have Ms. Assam emptying her gun at the perp while walking towards him in the hallway.

He was definitely down, and then perhaps shot himself fatally. The fact that he was taken down by that brave woman is not in dispute.

103 posted on 12/11/2007 12:52:20 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: ironwill

Somehow I knew they would spin it like this. I have a different take on it. They probably did it just in case “someone” would try and sue her. I was already waiting for that. I think it’s a bunch of BS.


104 posted on 12/11/2007 12:56:14 PM PST by IceColdConservative1
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To: Tijeras_Slim
That would be 4 flats of shotgun shells (10 boxes x 25 shells per flat.)

Yep, and they wouldn't have fit into a backpack either.

105 posted on 12/11/2007 12:56:17 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: ironwill

Ms. Hassam wounded him and stopped the attack. Once the little maggot knew his attack was over, he ended his life. She is no less of a hero. If the MSM tries to belittle her heroism we need to blast them.


106 posted on 12/11/2007 12:57:36 PM PST by montag813
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To: Lee'sGhost
Maybe the “self inflicted” shot occurred when his muscles involuntarily contracted because of a bullet going through his heart or brain.

LOL!

While I'm sure we won't get the info, I'd like to know what kind of "armor" he was wearing, what caliber gun she had, where her bullets hit and what weapons he had on him.

This "suicide" blurb was the first I heard he had a shotgun.

107 posted on 12/11/2007 12:57:38 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: Froufrou

Towards the end of the article, it says she was fired for lying.
Looks like she swore at a bus driver during an incident on the bus
So maybe she lied in saying during the inestigation that she didn’t
actually swear.
Some big-city buses do have survellance cams on board; maybe there
were also recorders about this bus?
(Or a lip-reader revealed Assam swore after just watching a surveillance tape?)

It will be interesting to hear “the rest of the story” from Ms. Assam.


108 posted on 12/11/2007 12:58:20 PM PST by VOA
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To: WOBBLY BOB
(and he killed himself because Bush won’t sign Kyoto)

I forgot about that part.

109 posted on 12/11/2007 12:58:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: DCPatriot
She's hot.

Oh, the KIDS! Thanks for the keyboard-cleaning guffaw!

110 posted on 12/11/2007 12:59:22 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: mvpel
As a former cop, she'd know better than to do something as stupid as that.

Most cops I know are pretty lousy shots. Those Florida cops took 168 rounds to kill ONE guy. Outrageous.

111 posted on 12/11/2007 12:59:33 PM PST by montag813
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To: ga medic
I doubt he would have killed himself, had he not run into someone with a gun

There is no question that he would have killed until he ran out of ammo. You don't bring 900 rounds to a suicide.

112 posted on 12/11/2007 1:00:32 PM PST by montag813
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To: VOA

How she’d be viewed as anything short of heroic is beyond me, bus incident or not.


113 posted on 12/11/2007 1:00:32 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: spunkets
Looks like he was carrying a shotgun, not a rifle.

Not if he had 1,000 rounds of ammo. That would be an entire CASE of ammo. Tijeras_Slim and I are discussing that now.

114 posted on 12/11/2007 1:01:45 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (I've been too busy for FR this weekend, because I did the things I refuse to let the invaders do.)
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To: VOA

What’s interesting to me about that is that she was fired. Wouldn’t a reprimand be more in line with the offense? There must be more to the story.


115 posted on 12/11/2007 1:01:59 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: papertyger

***Did he carry all this in his assault wheelbarrow?***

Been reading the writings of “Gunkid” have you! Last I heard he was in prison.


116 posted on 12/11/2007 1:05:32 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: ironwill

What can you expect to come from a PD that was shown up as a bunch of fools by a single girl with a handgun against an armored assailant with an AR-15 and its arsenal?

Sure, a lot of department he-man, tommy-taser detectives have the red-eye over being out-policed.


117 posted on 12/11/2007 1:06:32 PM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

From the Colorado Springs Gazette - “A backpack worn by Murray held 1,000 rounds of ammunition for the rifle and two pistols he was carrying and several smoke grenades, police said”.

No shotgun mentioned until today.


118 posted on 12/11/2007 1:08:19 PM PST by Ivan
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

A quick google of “Gunkid” to see what you’re referring to gave me the willies!


119 posted on 12/11/2007 1:08:29 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Agreed.........my first thought too.....


120 posted on 12/11/2007 1:08:32 PM PST by ALASKA (IT'S NOT ROCKET SURGERY......................Don't just do something, STAND THERE!!!)
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