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To: DocRock
My husband was head usher at our former church. He had an informal "A team" in case of trouble. They never had any because they always managed to talk 'em down. Of course if you have a couple of old Navy Chiefs, a karate black belt whose night job is bouncer in a local bar, a judo instructor, and your team leader is 6'6", 250# and 4th kyu aikido, it helps.

Problem is in GA nobody can tote in a church. That puts everybody at a disadvantage. Gun free zone. They were always very aware of that.

496 posted on 12/10/2007 6:52:47 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
" informal "A team"

I like that description. I hope you don't mind if I use it at my church in the future. We also have an "unspoken", "informal A team" which immediately responds to any trouble and shifts from "usher" mode to "bouncer" mode. Our church is located next to a "half-way" house and we have drunks wonder in frequently. We also have no trouble "talk'n em down" as they don't wish to go back to the "big house". We've had a few lately that required the "laying on of hands" to remove from the service but they were the young punks that "know their rights". I'll share one of my favorite which just happened last month.

The pastor was preaching against Islam and that we don't worship the same God as Allah when a few tattooed, pierced young adults decided to make a scene. We escorted the ring leader to the parking lot and we stood between him and the door. He wouldn't leave and when pressed about that, he told us his friends were still inside. We were OK with that until he pulled out a cigarette and started to light up which is against our church policy of "No tobacco use on church property". Again, this informed young adult knew his rights and stepped off the church property onto the city sidewalk and started smoking his cigarette while verbally assaulting us. Then, on a clear day... with only a few white puffy clouds... it began to rain on him.

I looked at all the other ushers and we looked up at the clear sky and we all got under the awning and started heckling the heckler... fully expecting the full ZOT! from God any moment.

499 posted on 12/10/2007 7:11:59 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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