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To: Quix
In other words, I do NOT believe that 100% of his assertions about his mom are 100% false.

Neither do I. On the other hand, I see little in his accusations that would make me think she was a bad mother. Banning of violent video games and offensive music lyrics in the home does not equal child abuse.

Have you ever raised teens in a toxic culture (such as America in the last 10 years)? I am in the middle of that process myself.

It seems inescapable . . . that there must have been SOME level of craziness . . . and quite likely a great lot of it

Do you have anything to back up this assertion? You are welcome to post it. And no, I will not consider "had a Pentecostal mother" as definitive proof of parental "craziness" as you put it.

2,477 posted on 12/12/2007 11:35:41 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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No, you may take some glee in the fact that I’ve only helped others raise their kids better. I’ve lived in homes where I shared nurturing and discipline duties of kids of various ages. But I was very careful to avoid having my own as I’ve stated many times hereon.

It does not sound like you have read much of his postings, rantings etc. He had a LOT to say about his home life with mommy dearest. I don’t believe 100% of it was exaggeration.

again . . . EVEN 10% OF WHAT HE WROTE would be plenty evidence of seriouis emotional and likely far worse abuse.

Several lines SEEM FAIRLY BRAZENLY but cryptically to be writing about seductive physical contact that SOUNDS LIKE went well beyond petting. I reread those lines several times to be sure I wasn’t misconstruing things.

It would not be the first time an isolated mother/wife of a detached workaholic hubby [conjecture, hypothesis from limited available evidence] got wrapped up inappropriately with youngest son . . . by a long shot.

IT also SEEMS LIKE her obsessiveness was focused on him as opposed to her other kids—also very common.

It also SEEMS LIKE her censoring of his music etc. was way off the scale. It wasn’t merely guidance with fitting consequences—it was EVIDENTLY CONSTANTLY SEARCHING THROUGH ALL his stuff with great distress and punishment when any contraband was found—EVIDENTLY FOR YEARS.

On top of that—it sounds like pastors were routinely brought into the home—perhaps after such repeated mom/son confrontations—to try and coerce, persuade, demand from lofty spiritual heights that he shape up.

I do not think he would necessarily have been an easy child to raise for anyone.

But he did NOT come out of the womb as mangled as his postings clearly show he was.


2,480 posted on 12/12/2007 11:52:51 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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