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Michigan House Passes Ban On Smoking In Bars, Restaurants
ClickonDetroit ^ | December 6, 2007 | AP

Posted on 12/06/2007 5:29:42 AM PST by ShadowDancer

Michigan House Passes Ban On Smoking In Bars, Restaurants

POSTED: 7:47 am EST December 6, 2007
UPDATED: 8:10 am EST December 6, 2007

Smoking in Michigan workplaces, including bars and restaurants, would be banned under legislation passed by the Democratic-led state House.

The vote is a victory for supporters, who have been pushing the measure for a decade.

But it may not get very far in the Senate because majority Republicans oppose it.

Backers say a majority of state residents want a broad workplace smoking ban, and point to the harmful effects of secondhand smoke on employees and patrons.

Opponents say smoking is legal and government shouldn't interfere with the rights of private property owners.

Casinos, horse tracks, bingo halls, cigar bars and smoke shops would be exempt from the smoking ban.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: hooray; nannystate; pufflist; tobaccocausescancer
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To: Snoopers-868th
I'm a young college student that was brain-washed by my parents. I can't count the number of times I was told "Think for yourself...you have a brain for just that purpose."

I've opted to bypass the college student liberalism and be realistic.

101 posted on 12/06/2007 8:40:31 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (No Longer white...I'm Caucasion-American...Please make note)
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To: Old Professer
Who wants to smell like perchloroethylene and acetone, anyway?

You are giving the nanny staters more amunition - smokers are forcing them to be subjected to dangerous chemicals because they must purge themselves of the nasty smoking smell.

102 posted on 12/06/2007 8:42:43 AM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

ATC: You misread my response. It was intended to be for College Repub.


103 posted on 12/06/2007 8:46:44 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Snoopers-868th

Or maybe ATC I misread your response which was only intended to be a comment. LOL


104 posted on 12/06/2007 8:49:19 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: College Repub
Good riddance to smokers!
Have you a complete list of the undesirables that you would like to see expunged from the earth? Out with it, boy. I can't believe that of all the evils in the world, smoking is the one vice that you simply cannot tolerate. First, they came for the smokers....
105 posted on 12/06/2007 8:50:00 AM PST by BMiles2112
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To: Elyse

Your sweat don’t stink?


106 posted on 12/06/2007 8:59:51 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Snoopers-868th

It was for general comment only. I’m an 80 year old wrapped in an 18 year old body.


107 posted on 12/06/2007 9:13:45 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (No Longer white...I'm Caucasion-American...Please make note)
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To: Snoopers-868th

...and I write that as I listen to Glenn Miller’s WWII-Big Band Swing.


108 posted on 12/06/2007 9:14:52 AM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (No Longer white...I'm Caucasion-American...Please make note)
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To: Old Professer

Lol! Actually, I’m remarkably unstinky under my arms, but I make up for it by smoking. :)


109 posted on 12/06/2007 9:16:45 AM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
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If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

Our legislature at work.

110 posted on 12/06/2007 9:23:28 AM PST by grellis (Is this the best we've got??!)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
...and I write that as I listen to Glenn Miller’s WWII-Big Band Swing.

Do you have the History Channel's 2-CD set called "Til Then". Excellent. This is not the music of my era but it is my favorite. My mother's era but I loved it so much I claim it too. Many years ago we attended a New Year's Eve dance affair and had the privilege to dance to the Glenn Miller Band under the direction of Buddy Morrow. A night I will never forget and the dance steps we love to dance to learned through Fred Astaire studio. See your Private messages.

111 posted on 12/06/2007 9:23:47 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: cripplecreek
Back when I was a bride-to-be, I registered for gifts at the now belly-up Folands. Walked around with a clipboard in one hand and a smoke in the other.

I also remember visiting my husband, before we were married, while he was at work at Radio Shack. We'd hang out on the salesfloor, smoking. That was back in 1990.

112 posted on 12/06/2007 9:27:51 AM PST by grellis (Is this the best we've got??!)
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To: absolootezer0
so, any word on how many budget bills are still floating around?

No idea, but I bet it's quite a few. Our state budget is nothing more than smoke and mirrors...a magic trick which adeptly makes money from our pockets disappear.

Funny, isn't it? The House dims have the time to vote on legislation which is sure to be killed in the Senate, and they still haven't wrapped up the budget...

113 posted on 12/06/2007 9:31:22 AM PST by grellis (Is this the best we've got??!)
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To: Philly Nomad
I'm shaking from laughing. Let me get this straight: You were staying out of establishments which allowed smoking because you were what...concerned for your health? And now you're pleased as punch because you can go out and drink more?

You are soooooo on the wrong forum, dear! Thanks for the chuckle

114 posted on 12/06/2007 9:42:11 AM PST by grellis (Is this the best we've got??!)
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To: Snoopers-868th
Oh my word, Snoopers--you're a gal!!! All this time I thought you were a guy! Not that it has anything to do with the subject at hand, but, well, there ya go!
115 posted on 12/06/2007 9:48:07 AM PST by grellis (Is this the best we've got??!)
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To: ShadowDancer

The economy in Michigan is the worst in the nations. Employers are leaving in droves. Lansing is in chaos and THIS is what the democrats are wasting their time on???


116 posted on 12/06/2007 9:49:04 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ShadowDancer

Yup, thank goodness they’re finally taking steps to strengthen our languishing economy, crippling unemployment, and bloated government.


117 posted on 12/06/2007 9:50:35 AM PST by DarkSavant
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To: grellis

Just Damn—gave myself away. LOL


118 posted on 12/06/2007 10:02:11 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: grellis

yeah, its really, REALLY irritating, especially to me. i have a job offer that’s dependant on one of the budget bills being passed.
*sigh*

and in the mean time, they’re passing around bills about helmet laws and smoking bans.


119 posted on 12/06/2007 10:06:24 AM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: DouglasKC; Gabz
This is what I can't figure out, especially given the mitten's current financial state: Why try enacting a ban? Why isn't our state gubmint trying to cash in--FURTHER--on smokers?

If the dims had put any thought into it, they'd have realized that this is a money-making opportunity. What does a store, restaurant, bar etc do if they want to sell alcohol? They apply for a license ($$$). Let's imagine our state gubmint goes that route: How else, besides licensing fees, can they make money off of establishments friendly to smokers? Why not require--as a condition of licensing--special ventilation systems? ($$$ KA-CHING $$$--unionized mechanical contractors making money, permit department raking in the fees, code compliance heavies finding faults everywhere, assessing all kinds of violation fees...)

I'm astounded that the dims would go for an outright ban, when a golden calf, chewing on tobacco leaves, is just a-sittin in yonder pasture!

Kinda scary, just how easily I can slip into the mind of a dim...

120 posted on 12/06/2007 10:07:03 AM PST by grellis (Is this the best we've got??!)
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