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How America Lost the War on Drugs
Rolling Stone ^ | Novermber 27th, 2007 | Ben Wallace-Wells

Posted on 12/02/2007 7:00:11 PM PST by cryptical

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To: cryptical
America's drug warriors are just like our HOV lane designers. Neither are trying to solve a problem. Instead, their goals are ideological.

A drug warrior is not trying to eliminate the drug problem, they imprisons drug users and dealers because they are morally wrong and imprisoning them is morally correct.

An HOV lane designer creates HOV lanes not because it will reduce traffic congestion, but because it is morally correct.

Problems are hard enough to solve when you are trying to solve them, and virtually impossible when that isn't even your intent.

There is no intention of ever ending the War on Drugs. Heck, it is now a major way of harassing other countries and sticking our nose in the their business, and the DEA is now involved in manipulating foreign policy.
21 posted on 12/02/2007 7:46:11 PM PST by microgood
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To: justkillingtime

My sister and her man have been given lots of breaks from me, other family members, state governments, and the federal government. They have recieved sympathy, help, and a great deal of financial support, all to no avail. Now SSI, in other words the taxpayer, is paying their way in the continued abuse of illegal pharmacology.

This nation is deeply in debt. The drug abuse epidemic, and its attendent crimes, will end up destroying our nation unless we get tough about the penalties.

At some point we have to say - NO MORE!


22 posted on 12/02/2007 7:48:08 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: cripplecreek

Dream on CC, homegrown is a multi bullion dollar business and none of it comes across the boarders, get a grip.


23 posted on 12/02/2007 8:03:07 PM PST by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: cryptical

Article?

More like a mini series.


24 posted on 12/02/2007 8:05:12 PM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: DoingTheFrenchMistake
...homegrown is a multi bullion dollar business and none of it comes across the boarders...

And, much like moonshine during Prohibition, people will continue to produce and consume.

25 posted on 12/02/2007 8:10:10 PM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: SatinDoll
They can't even keep illegal drugs out of prisons. Are you seriously prepared to convert our entire nation into the equivalent of a super-max prison, a radically intrusive police state, in order to "end drug abuse?"

You seem to be willing to destroy our nation in order to save it. Ask your spin doctor if Incarcerex is right for you.

26 posted on 12/02/2007 8:10:18 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: cripplecreek
Control the border and you’ll stop a lot of drugs from coming in.

The drug lords will have to sell the Senate back to us, first. ;)

27 posted on 12/02/2007 8:18:11 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: mvpel

Hell. Two chances to shape up and quit. Third strike you’re out and executed. Problem eliminated.

What! You stupidly thought I was nice?


28 posted on 12/02/2007 8:18:38 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: cryptical

I always found it absurd that we spend so much time, money, and energy on marijuana suppliers and smokers when you can just go to your local pharmacy and get thousands of different drugs that are considerably more addictive and more dangerous.

I never have taken any drugs, by the way. But I’m willing to see the failures of the war on it.


29 posted on 12/02/2007 8:27:00 PM PST by Tears of a Clown
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To: cryptical

Stop the insane war on drugs. Stop the welfare subsidization of drug use. Let people bear the consequences of their own stupidity.


30 posted on 12/02/2007 8:48:16 PM PST by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: microgood

Good analogy. Good post!


31 posted on 12/02/2007 8:53:33 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason. - Home invaders will be shot. - Current temperature 37f)
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To: SatinDoll

32 posted on 12/02/2007 8:53:45 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

Let me guess: you’re a Ron Paul supporter.


33 posted on 12/02/2007 8:59:17 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll

Let me guess: you’re a totalitarian supporter.

I thought Free Republic was for conservatives, not holier-than-thou police statists.


34 posted on 12/02/2007 9:10:20 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: SatinDoll

35 posted on 12/02/2007 9:13:50 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

No, I’m no totalitarian.

But I’ve lived in countries that have decriminalized usage of addictive drugs. Such liberalization doesn’t work.

You’re highly critical and insulting about my proposed solution. Why haven’t you suggested something - brain dead perhaps? Been shooting up horse?


36 posted on 12/02/2007 9:17:34 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: ClearCase_guy

Legalize the **** and nobody would have to commit crimes to buy it. Abolish the “war on drugs(TM)” and 70* of American crime would evaporate almost instantly.


37 posted on 12/02/2007 9:32:29 PM PST by damondonion
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To: SatinDoll

America has decriminalized usage of addictive drugs too - like nicotine and alcohol.

Funny, we don’t see massive international crime and gang syndicates in either of those markets, except when the taxes are raised too high.

You apparently want to treat a medical problem of addiction not by employing medical experts, but by employing firing squads. And that stance just beggars the imagination, so of course I’m highly critical and insulting about it.


38 posted on 12/02/2007 9:33:15 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: damondonion

Wrong! Countries like Spain which decriminalized the personal use of drugs experienced a crime wave. I was one of the victims.


39 posted on 12/02/2007 9:35:56 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: mvpel

We’ve been treating addiction like it’s a medical problem. It doesn’t work worth squat!

Meanwhile entire swathes of this country have been taken over by foreign criminal gangs. There are places where many Americans cannot even walk anymore without being in grave danger.

I am not advocating a totalitarian solution. I am offering an opinion. Make the third conviction for drug abuse a capital crime. This gives people two opportunities to get the monkey off their backs AND a great reason to do so. Three strikes and you’re out!

Oh, yeah, the drug traffickers don’t get three chances. They get whacked the FIRST time.

Not totalitarian. Just getting d..ned angry.


40 posted on 12/02/2007 9:42:07 PM PST by SatinDoll
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