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To: napscoordinator
1980 and 1984 is not 2008.

No doubt. The country is a lot more liberal now. The days of seeing the GOP candidate win 49 states are long gone, sad to say.

50 posted on 12/02/2007 10:11:19 AM PST by Mr. Mojo (“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors and miss.")
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To: Lazarus Longer

The days of seeing the GOP candidate win 49 states are long gone, sad to say.

That can happen again if we pick a conservative President. We have not done that since Reagan. Duncan his second term could do that.


57 posted on 12/02/2007 10:14:14 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Lazarus Longer
“The days of seeing the GOP candidate win 49 states are long gone, sad to say.”

Quite true, and yes, it is sad. The MSM has done a good job of convincing people that conservatives are right wing kooks. And what’s more sad is the fact that many conservatives have bought into this lie. How else can you explain the fact that a good number of FReepers here are willing to vote for one of the most liberal "republicans" who’s ever run for president? Now that’s really SAD.

75 posted on 12/02/2007 11:07:29 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Lazarus Longer

This country was alot more liberal on economic issues 30 years ago, but is was also alot less liberal on social issues. “Social issues conservatism” can slow down the tide, but rarely stops it from coming to shore. Our culture has changed, but it is our ignorance of constitutionalism that pisses me off more than the damage done to “our” culture by hippies/gays/illegals/feminists/the ghetto thugocracy, etc.


86 posted on 12/02/2007 12:00:30 PM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Lazarus Longer

The country may or may not be more liberal. What I see is that there is no one representing the people anymore. The dems used to say they were for the “little” people, but even the rank and file dems can see the establishment doesn’t care about them until election time.

They want a champion. That is why I love Duncan Hunter, I can go to them and show them someone who cares about them and understands how to get to the real cause of our troubles. Some of these dems are very interested in what he has to say. But they know by poll results, that even the republicans have no desire for him to win.

I guess I would have to agree with the article except that I agree for different reasons. The GOP has turned its back on people who appeal across the board with conservative ideas. They instead prefer candidates who pander and propose worthless liberal ideas. You can’t out liberal the dems. You can’t out pander them either. The only way we will be able to win is to return to the effective conservative ideas that Reagan stood for. No RINO wants to do that. They did not like Reagan then, they are showing no desire to put up with conservative ideas now.

Reagan probably could not get nominated now because the media would do everything they could to make sure no one knew who he was and the RINOs would all be yelling that he was too low in the polls to appeal on a national basis. They would tell his supporters to just dump him and climb on the RINO bandwagon to vote for a “weiner” I mean a supposed “winner.”

I’m a conservative. I don’t vote lib whether they have an (r), a (d), an (l) or a (g) next to their name.


106 posted on 12/02/2007 12:39:22 PM PST by Waryone (Constantly amazed by society's downhill slide.)
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To: Lazarus Longer

I don’t think even Reagan would have won by such a margin if he had been running against anyone but Jimmy- I remember the Carter years- I liked Reagan, but the truth is I would have voted for anyone but Carter.


128 posted on 12/02/2007 5:36:37 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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