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To: Southack

Right, but here you have the same code used for a different purpose, while some *other* piece of code is used for the original purpose. If you need endotoxin recognition, why not just use the code that’s already there?

That’s why I asked what you think happened. Why, exactly, do coral, fish, and mammals all have TLR-4* but fish don’t use it for the same thing the other animals do? Do you have an explanation, or are you just trying to nitpick evolution?

(* I’m taking your word for the fact that fish have TLR-4.)


357 posted on 12/08/2007 2:19:30 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
"Right, but here you have the same code used for a different purpose, while some *other* piece of code is used for the original purpose." - Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

No, Fish don't have endotoxin recognition and signaling. Coral have it with TLR. Humans have it with TLR-4.

Fish have TLR-4, but it does something entirely different.

That's not a gradual, evolutionary, smooth step to smooth step process.

It is, however, what one sees in modern computer programming with code re-use of portions of old programs used in (or slightly modified for) new software.

358 posted on 12/08/2007 2:24:58 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
(* I’m taking your word for the fact that fish have TLR-4.)

Not a good idea.

362 posted on 12/08/2007 7:44:32 PM PST by js1138
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
(* I’m taking your word for the fact that fish have TLR-4.)

He's correct about that, but only because I informed him of it. Ray-finned fish typically do have TLR-4, although the pufferfish, which has a stripped-down genome, eliminated it.

Coral do not have TLR-4. They have an ancestral TLR protein that does not match any of the fish or mammal TLR subtypes. Since we've been diverging from coral for about half a billion years, that's to be expected.

386 posted on 12/10/2007 7:05:02 AM PST by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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