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1 posted on 11/27/2007 6:15:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is no justice other than vigilantism.


47 posted on 11/27/2007 7:18:27 PM PST by Brilliant
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Everyone is missing one of the most important points here - what if the man was mistaken? It said that he didn’t know his neighbors very well - what if there was a reason for those guys breaking into the house that he didn’t know about? I have broken into houses plenty of times because of special cases - even used a crowbar once - and they were all special cases but perfectly justified nonetheless. There has to be measure of restraint for justice to be served. What if these were teenagers or women? Where was everybody else on the block? After 7 minutes, I would have had every able-bodied male on the block standing outside the house waiting. If it were my house and I was gone, I wouldn’t want the guy to just shoot anyone coming out. I have a bunch of teenagers at home and there’s no telling what’s going on even when they’re being good.
64 posted on 11/27/2007 8:34:09 PM PST by Timothy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Liberty Valance
A few years ago when Ann Richards was governor she decided that there was no reason to lock up people who had only committed burglaries of residences. She and her gang of libs saw no reason to lock up for 10 or 15 years people who had merely broken into homes and burglarized them.

In other words, only property had been stolen. She didn’t see why nonviolent criminals should have such long prison sentences... if any.

The band wagon was proceeding just fine until it was pointed out that many of these burglars were actually rapists.

In fact, if I recall correctly, a famous penologist who had been the warden of Sing Sing prison for many years testified in Austin that he had never met a man convicted of burglary who was not also a rapist if given an opportunity. It turned out that in many cases if women were in a home that was being burglarized they were raped.

Many of the allegedly "nonviolent" burglars had been given extremely long prison sentences to keep these women from having to go to court and testify in public about what had been done to them.

If somebody is breaking into a home in broad daylight, he, and whatever scumbag friends he has brought along, has earned the right to be killed on the spot. Don't tell me "it was only property."

Good shooting Mr Horn. As a taxpayer in the Great State of Texas, I appreciate your saving us the expense of a trial. I'm just sorry we can't check the dirt bags' wallets to see if they have enough of their own money to buy you a new box of shotgun shells to replace those you used.

68 posted on 11/27/2007 8:38:59 PM PST by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Frankly, I hate the idea of vigilante force. However, as time goes on and respect for individual rights are overcome by criminal intent..the police and sheriffs will not be able to keep up with demand. So should we roll over and give in to criminal activity?

These individuals could just have well killed or raped in the process of their “little” crime. Maybe not at that house, but the next.

If this gentleman would like to relocate..I would welcome him in my neighborhood.

And..yes..I’m from Texas. :)


76 posted on 11/27/2007 9:12:46 PM PST by berdie
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This guy did what any concerned neighbor would do.

The dispatcher is clueless. So is the Drive By Media that is covering

OK, Mr or Madam Dispatcher and Drive By “Journalists”. Answer this:

1) What if the neighbors would been the house being beat up by another individual(s)?

2) What if the neighbors would have elderly unable to physically defend themselves.

3) Worse that that, what if the neighbors had female children and the parents left them at home alone?

The old adage, shoot first and ask questions is very applicable. I bet you anything these thieves had criminal records and spent time in jail.

About three weeks ago, we had some kids ( I think) pull a prank on us about 9:30 PM on a school night. They came to our front door and pounded as if they were about to knock it down. The worst came to my mind as I jumped away from the kitchen sink (was washing a dish) and I ran to my bedroom and got my Piece out and called 911. I didn’t know if someone was trying to commit a home invasion or it was a school intitation prank which we assume it was because some of our neighbors said on other nights they had their doorbells rang really late or a simple knock on the door and when they got the door, no one was there.

Anyway, I told the police officer that if they catch these kids in action one day doing this, they might want to tell them that Texas law now protects the homeowner and what they did in the case of my door, would be an action were the law would protect me.

80 posted on 11/27/2007 9:24:55 PM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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As of now, he hasn’t been indicted, but it appears to be going to a Grand Jury. I don’t think the cops wanted to be in the middle of this. If the prosecutor is elected in Pasadena, then there will most likely be a no bill.
96 posted on 11/27/2007 10:52:34 PM PST by chuckles
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"Joe Horn gets a Texas 'attaboy' from me," countered John E. Meagher in the next letter. "Justice was served, law or not."

Bump!!!
111 posted on 11/28/2007 7:45:20 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think he was fully justified, but he really hurt his argument with the 911 tape. He came across as blood-thirsty and the anti-gun types are looking for a fight over this one.


114 posted on 11/28/2007 8:03:11 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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115 posted on 11/28/2007 8:03:43 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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"I'm not going to let them get away with this," Horn told the 911 dispatcher, who responded: "Property's not worth killing someone over."

Seconds later, the sound of a gun being loaded could be heard on the 911 tape, followed by a warning -- "Move [and] you're dead" -- and then three bursts of gunfire. Miguel DeJesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30, both of whom had small-time criminal histories, died of their wounds.

Fire the dispatcher and give him a medal. Everything he did was completely legal.

150 posted on 11/28/2007 1:44:48 PM PST by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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"I'm not going to let them get away with this," Horn told the 911 dispatcher, who responded: "Property's not worth killing someone over."

I guess someone should ask the perps if someone else' property is worth dieing for.

157 posted on 11/28/2007 2:57:17 PM PST by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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