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Huckabee, the False Conservative
RealClearPolitics ^ | November 26, 2007 | robert novak

Posted on 11/25/2007 9:10:54 PM PST by gpapa

WASHINGTON -- Who would respond to criticism from the Club for Growth by calling the conservative, free-market campaign organization the "Club for Greed"? That sounds like Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich or John Edwards, all Democrats preaching the class struggle. In fact, the rejoinder comes from Mike Huckabee, who has broken out of the pack of second-tier Republican presidential candidates to become a serious contender -- definitely in Iowa and perhaps nationally.

Huckabee is campaigning as a conservative, but serious Republicans know that he is a high-tax, protectionist, big-government advocate of a strong hand in the Oval Office directing the lives of Americans. Until now, they did not bother to expose the former governor of Arkansas as a false conservative because he seemed an underfunded, unknown nuisance candidate. Now that he has pulled even with Mitt Romney for the Iowa caucuses with the possibility of more progress, the beleaguered Republican Party has a frightening problem on its hands.

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To: Kitanis; All

Senator Fred Thompson is the only candidate that gets it. He makes decisions based on principles. Principles don’t change. You have to stand for something and not change who you are based on the polls. That is what Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani have done and all of the Democrats do it. Give me a leader that will stand by his principles anyday versus someone that stands for everything.

I know many Republicans and conservatives that will stay home if Rudy Giuliani is the candidate. He does not represent our values as conservatives, and never will. Millionaire Mitt Romney is a Republican-in-name-only (RINO) that simply has everything else and nothing to do. “I guess I’ll just try to buy the presidency”. The White House isn’t for sale! Mike Huckabee is for illegal alien amnesty and tuition assistance! NO THANKS!! Conservatives will simply stay home and the Democrats will pick up additional seats in the House and probably get the 60 seats in the Senate they need to completely destroy our country. Nice picture huh?

However, I think Fred can bring America back together, if that’s even possible. America needs a rebirth of patriotism and honor. Republicans also need a rebirth. President Reagan was our last rebirth and he can never be duplicated. Fred Thompson will bring his own down-to-earth common sense to this country. If a conservative runs as a conservative, he will win!

Think of it this way: Eight years of another sleazy Clinton White House? Now if that is not a sufficient enough reason to pull together as a nation, and fight this socialist liberal takeover of our government, what is?

Folks, we are in for the fight of our lives, just as our young men and women are fighting for our freedoms in Iraq and Afghanistan, we must fight for our nation right here and now! I truly believe Fred Thompson is the one man who can pull this nation back together! Rudy Giuliani will just tear us apart.

Fred on the Issues (from www.Fred08.com)

National Security

The first responsibility of government is to protect the American people, the homeland, and our way of life. Today we face the urgent threat of radical Islamic terrorists. Al Qaeda is committed to attacking us here at home, and wants to use weapons of mass destruction (WMD) to kill millions. We must never give them that opportunity. We must defeat the terrorists abroad, and that begins in Iraq and Afghanistan—the central fronts in this global war. We must show the world we have the will to fight and win. A weakened America - or an America that appears weaker - will only encourage further attacks. We must persevere. As Commander-in-Chief, the president must ensure the United States has the means to achieve victory. Presidential leadership requires talking to the American people about these stakes, mapping out a clear vision for success, and devising a comprehensive strategy for achieving it. I am committed to:

* A larger, more capable, and more modern military that can defeat terrorists, deter adversaries, and defend the U.S. and our interests.

* A missile defense system that can protect the U.S. and our allies from long-range ballistic missiles.

* An enhanced intelligence community, with robust human-intelligence capabilities, focused on terrorism and proliferation.

* A robust approach to homeland security that will protect our nation from terrorists and WMD, regardless of where they come from.

* A strengthened system of global alliances to better combat terrorists, proliferators, and traditional threats to our interests.

* A judicial system that deals with the realities of terrorists and unlawful enemy combatants.

Federal Budget and Spending/Budgetary Reform

In a few short years—not a generation from now—a fiscal tsunami that could imperil our security and economic prosperity will hit our nation and place an unfair burden of debt on our children and grandchildren. The tens of trillions of dollars in debt that will be accumulated over the next few decades will do immense harm to our economy. This burden is now estimated at $170,000 per person and $440,000 per family. Time is running out to address this looming crisis. We need market-based approaches to reform that guarantee benefits for those who need them and embrace personal responsibility and cost-effectiveness without raising taxes. Given the scope and urgency of this problem, and the burden it will place on our children, reform is not only an economic necessity, it is a moral imperative that requires action now. I am committed to:

* Opening the government’s fiscal books on this looming crisis for all to see and understand.

* Working with individuals of all political persuasions to develop a comprehensive solution to the pending fiscal crisis.

* Leading and making the hard choices necessary, to include cutting wasteful government spending, to safeguard our security, promote our prosperity, and protect our children and grandchildren from fiscal calamity.

Tax Reform

The U.S. tax code is broken and a burden on U.S. taxpayers and businesses, large and small. Today’s tax code is particularly hostile to savings and investment, and it shows. To make matters worse, its complexity is a drag on our productivity and economic growth. Moreover, taxpayers spend billions of dollars and untold hours each year filling out complicated tax returns, just so they can send more money to Washington, much of it for wasteful programs and the pet projects of special interests. We need lower taxes, and we need to let taxpayers keep more of their hard-earned dollars—they know best where and how to spend them. And we need to make the system simpler and fairer for all. To ensure America’s long term prosperity and economic security, I am committed to:

* Fundamental tax reform built on the principles of simplicity, fairness, and growth.

* A new tax code that gets the government out of our citizens’ pocketbooks, while enhancing U.S. competitiveness abroad.

Dissolution of the IRS as we know it.

Healthcare

Americans have the best healthcare in the world. Some, however, choose not be insured; others cannot afford it. Every American should be able to get health insurance coverage that is affordable, fully accessible, and portable. Coverage should meet their individual needs and put them in control. Those who propose a one-size-fits-all Washington-controlled program ignore the cost, inefficiency, and inadequate care that such a system offers. Access to affordable, portable health care can be made available for all Americans without imposing new mandates or raising taxes. Current government programs must also be streamlined and improved so that those who truly need help can get the health care they need. I am committed to a healthcare system that:

* Realigns programs and creates a system around individual consumers and patients by providing more information and more opportunities to choose affordable health care options that best meet their needs and those of their families.

* Improves the individual health of all Americans by shifting to a system that promotes cost-effective prevention, chronic-care management, and personal responsibility

* Modernizes delivery and administration of care by encouraging the widespread use of clinical best practices, medical information technology, and other innovations.

* Increases competition and consumer choice while streamlining regulations through free-market solutions that benefit individuals and reduce costs for employers.

* Promotes and speeds medical research and life-sciences innovation.

Government Effectiveness

Our government is outdated, inefficient, and wasteful. It is often unable to perform even the most basic tasks our citizens expect. It is no longer enough just to want limited government; the American people deserve more effective government. Given today’s challenges, we cannot afford—and shouldn’t accept—anything less than a nimble, effective, and efficient government that is able to focus its resources on the important issues facing our country. It must be able act on behalf of the American people and our national interests in a timely manner. The key to competent government is strong, committed leadership from the top. The key to good government is good people who are well-managed and put the national interest first. I am committed to:

* Attracting and rewarding the best Americans to serve in government and ensuring they have the authority and resources needed to get the job done.

* Fixing government accounting so tax dollars are properly spent and the American people know exactly what they are being spent on.

* Improving government performance by making agencies accountable for accomplishing their missions on time and within budget.

* Ensuring information technology systems are secure and that they give our government the capacity and effectiveness to get the job done.

Building Strong Families

Strong families are the bedrock of our nation and our culture. They are built around the sanctity of life and the institution of marriage, which is the union of a man and a woman. To counter coarseness in today’s culture that oftentimes victimizes our children and undermines the traditional values parents want to instill, we must not only protect but strengthen the institutions of family and marriage. I am committed to:

* Using the Presidency to encourage policies that promote a culture of life, strengthen the institution of marriage and traditional families, and advance freedom of religion.

* Returning authority to the levels of government closest to families and communities—the states—and then protecting states from further intrusion by the federal government, the judiciary, and other states.

* Combating the spread of obscenity over TV and other media by making sure parents can better exercise their responsibilities.

Immigration

The United States is a nation of immigrants. Throughout our history, legal immigrants have brought energy, ideas, strength, and diversity to our country, our economy, and our culture. This must continue. But in the post-9/11 world, immigration is more of a national security issue. A government that cannot secure its borders and determine who may enter and who may not, abrogates a fundamental responsibility. I am committed to:

* Securing our borders and enforcing immigration laws. Amnesty is not an option and the toleration of “sanctuary cities” must end.

* Reviewing our immigration laws and policies to ensure they advance our national interests.
Uniting Americans by welcoming legal immigrants willing to learn English, assimilate into our communities, and become productive citizens.

Education

A well-educated citizenry is vital to our security, our economy, and our democracy. Despite the tens of billions of dollars spent on education by Washington each year, and the hundreds of federal education programs now in place, our children are still falling behind, particularly in subjects crucial to the global economy in which we live. At a time when America is behind other developed countries in education excellence, the federal role in education is too intrusive and too bureaucratic, and has become part of the problem. State and local governments are closest to the parents, the kids, and the schools, and best situated to implement changes and innovations that best educate children. I am committed to:

* Giving parents more choices in education and schools less bureaucracy.

* Reviewing federal programs for cost-effectiveness, reducing federal mandates, returning education money to the states, and empowering parents by promoting voucher programs, charter schools, and other innovations that enhance education excellence through competition and choice.

* Encouraging students and teachers to pursue careers in science, technology, engineering, and math—fields that are crucial to our security, competitiveness, and prosperity.

* Promoting transparency to assess performance, promote accountability, and share innovations in education at all levels.

Appointing Judges Faithful To Our Constitution

Activist judges across the country seem intent on legislating from the bench to promote a culture of abortion, redefine marriage, and undermine families—in effect re-shaping the values of our entire society without the consent of the people. We need judges who recognize their role in our democracy is to interpret, not make, the law. I am committed to:

* Appointing strict constructionist judges who will interpret the law, not impose their views on us by legislating from the bench.

Energy Security

The energy challenges our nation faces today are real and significant. Our dependence on foreign sources of oil threatens our national security and puts our economic prosperity at risk. America must rise to the challenge and take the steps necessary to become more energy independent before this becomes a crisis. No one solution will solve the energy challenges we face; all ideas must be on the table. Greater energy security will enhance our ability to pursue our foreign policy and national security objectives. Increasing our energy independence and investing in alternative energy sources will also produce a healthier environment. And while we don’t know for certain how or why climate change is occurring, it makes sense to take reasonable steps to reduce CO2 emissions without harming our economy. Overall, I am committed to:

* A balanced approach to energy security that increases domestic supplies, reduces demand for oil and gas, and promotes alternative fuels and other diverse energy sources.

* Investing in renewable and alternative fuels to promote greater energy independence and a cleaner environment.

* An energy policy that invests in the advanced technologies of tomorrow and places more emphasis on conservation and energy efficiency.

* Conducting research and development into technologies that improve the environment, especially the reduction of CO2 emissions.

Second Amendment

I strongly support the Second Amendment of the Constitution, which protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms. Gun control is touted as a major crime-control measure. But some of the places with the strictest gun-control laws also have high violent-crime rates. Disarming law-abiding citizens does not prevent crime. The answer to violent crime is smart, effective, and aggressive law enforcement. The real effect of these gun-control measures is to place onerous restrictions on law-abiding citizens who use firearms for such legal activities as self-defense, sport-shooting, hunting, and collecting. I am committed to:

* Strictly enforcing existing laws and severely punishing violent criminals.

* Protecting the rights individual Americans enjoy under the Second Amendment.


21 posted on 11/25/2007 10:26:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Kitanis

22 posted on 11/25/2007 11:48:21 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: gpapa

BUMP!!


23 posted on 11/25/2007 11:52:10 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From JULY 7, 2004, over three years ago, from Arkansas News. WOW!

...A caller named Travis from Pine Bluff told (Gov.) Huckabee that illegal immigration will sap America's taxpayers because of the services they require. "That is ultimately going to be a tremendous problem," he said. "Most work, and work very hard, but still it floods our system." Huckabee responded that people wrongly assume that illegal immigrants are the beneficiaries of costly government services. "If they're illegal they're not about to show up at some public institution and say I'd like funds because when they do the I.D. check and find out they're illegal then they're in trouble," the governor said. "So these are not the people who are accessing welfare, food stamps because they're not eligible for them. They can't get them." In addition, Huckabee said a study has shown that illegal immigrants are putting more money into the economy than they're taking out. "They're purchasing things and paying sales tax," Huckabee said. "They're buying things. They're paying taxes but they're not getting the benefits of a taxpayer. Not Social Security, not food stamps, welfare, benefits from employers. "The truth is the illegal aliens are costing themselves more by being illegal when the real goal ought to be to give people the opportunity to become legal, naturalized citizens of the United States." Huckabee emphasized that he was not justifying illegal immigration.

Like I said...WOW.

24 posted on 11/25/2007 11:56:14 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (AmericanInTokyo; Count THIS Freeper as solidly behind DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!!!)
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To: wai-ming

club for growth isn’t so crazy about Hunter either. it’s Fred that is the all around winner.


25 posted on 11/26/2007 12:26:42 AM PST by ari-freedom (Scientific consensus is formed by the public schools and government grants.)
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To: ari-freedom
Short term, Club for Growth and business benefits from the cheap labor offered by mainland China factories ables to employ thousands for a fraction of our minimum wage. This view is woefully myopic because of its long-term consequences for our republic.

We have a very real problem, with storms brewing on the horizon. The present trade arrangement with this communist juggernaut is neither free nor fair, but a one-way street, with 17% subsidies to their exporters, 17% tariffs on ours, and a currency devalued and pegged to our dollar. Everything benefits China, and short term, multi-national corporations. So far, the hole we've dug ourselves has found $1.4Bn of American debt in Chinese hands. That's more than double the value of all the printed U.S. legal tender in the world. In plain terms, that means if they were to sell it, the value of the dollar would drop precipitously.

This is further complicated in that it goes beyond trade to a potential military enemy. If China were a benevolent and staunch ally like the U.K., this might not be so bad. They are neither.

At best, protraction of the present situation will merely accelerate China's inevitable dominance on the world stage; the U.S. will merely be second-banana sooner. At worst, it will eventually pit us against a new superpower stronger than us, and this time circumstances will find us powerless to stand up for freedom and right. They will be free to solve all of their own problems at the expense of (first of all) Taiwan, and wherever else they wish to go.

I think the free traders would be well to go beyond simple slogans and take off the economy-only blinders and look at the bigger global picture.

I have recognized the China problem for many years. Duncan Hunter is the ONLY candidate discussing it. U.S. large business cares about making a buck today, and since most are multinational, doesn't give a damn about our national sovereignty tomorrow. They are the big money players in Presidential politics, so if it isn't you and me standing for U.S. interests, nobody else will.

26 posted on 11/26/2007 12:55:18 AM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: All
"But Mike Huckabee is getting enough favorable buzz that, when combined with his evangelical base, it makes real conservatives shudder."
27 posted on 11/26/2007 1:54:03 AM PST by dano1
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To: matthew fuller
Matthew, yours are good questions. We don't have more good choices because we immediately dismiss those we do not believe can win. It comes down to money. It's our fault as cynical citizens.

There are plenty of good people who could run for President if a lot of regular people would rally behind a good candidate and contribute the money he would need to win the nomination.

Americans hate politicians and are cynically suspicious of anyone who EVEN RUNS for office.

When I ran for congress a few years ago in the primary as an unknown, I had people ask me if I was a crook. When I answered, "No," they would say, "Well, you'll become one."

Further, many believe a good person can do nothing to fix the country's problems because things are so out of hand.

Most voters and the media simply have no respect for a candidate who does not arrive on the scene with plenty of money and support already behind him.

Add to that the simple truth the best people for the job have no interest in the suffering the slanderous nastiness they would endure in the process of seeking the job.

28 posted on 11/26/2007 2:07:13 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The media is exploiting Huckabee. Huckabee has no real support. They’re using Huckster to get Fred and Romney out of the race so they’ll have their Rudy/Huckabee dream authoritarian ticket.

AGREED! The MSM is setting up the elections to deprive the conservatives of a real candidate and drive them out of the election.

29 posted on 11/26/2007 2:15:52 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: gpapa
Calling global warming a "moral issue" mandating "a biblical duty" to prevent climate change, he has endorsed the cap-and-trade system that is anathema to the free market.
Among all the other reasons for distrusting Huckabee, this one deserves special emphasis.
30 posted on 11/26/2007 2:25:47 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: Lexinom

I’m sorry but conservatives should not be in favor of raising taxes. We need to cut spending and lower taxes on our businesses. We need to get rid of many regulations, including the minimum wage. We need better education. China wipes the floor with us in math.

Hunter wants to increase taxes...a tariff on china will increase the cost of doing business and that means that more jobs will move away from the US to countries without these tariffs.
You know, this is also why sanctions don’t work.


31 posted on 11/26/2007 3:09:13 AM PST by ari-freedom (Scientific consensus is formed by the public schools and government grants.)
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To: gpapa

I hope that when Chuck Norris realizes he’s been had by an Amnesty Loving, Tax and Spend, Socialist prone to temper tantrums, that he challenges the Huckster to a game of Dodge Ball (Sudden Death elimination)


32 posted on 11/26/2007 5:00:28 AM PST by NavVet (O)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
A really damaging quote from this article:

But Huckabee simply does not fit in normal boundaries of economic conservatism, as when he criticized President Bush's veto of a Democratic expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). Calling global warming a "moral issue" mandating "a biblical duty" to prevent climate change, he has endorsed the cap-and-trade system that is anathema to the free market.

I'll shortly be posting a pro-Huckabee article from today's Townhall.com, notably it does not refute anything Novak/s written here.

33 posted on 11/26/2007 6:00:40 AM PST by libstripper
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To: wai-ming
I wouldn’t mind seeing the GOP frontrunners drop out of the race, leaving Duncan Hunter, a real conservative holding the flag.

Me, too. However, IMHO, he has zero name recognition.

34 posted on 11/26/2007 8:25:20 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Kitanis
No Ron Paul and no Mike Huckabee. AGREE whole heartedly.

Who would be a front runner for the Republicans?

Romney? Hmmmm maybe... True.

McCain? Heck No.... Damn straight. New slogan: RINO's Retire! Just like your buds Frist, Lott, Hastert et al.

Giuliani? Oh HELL No... Very true ... no Rockefeller Republicans need apply.

I do believe we need to look and listen closely to Hunter and to Fred and to Mitt. I believe they have a real chance of uniting a conservative base. With these three we have a chance to craft a good conservative ticket from two of the three. But we have to listen to exactly what they say and judge them on most close to the ideal and not the usual gut reaction that he not real since he not dead on on all issues.

Are they perfect in every way ... No. Are they close enough on enough issues to make a real difference and a real change in the course we are currently on ... Yes. I also believe they would offer us better than the "lesser of two evils" we've been seeing.

IMHO, these three present a clear difference in what we now have for the better. I also believe they would 'fight' the loyal opposition (read Dems and liberals and socialists) in a way that would galvanize more Republicans in both the House and Senate ... and pick up some conservative Democrats along the way.

I also believe they would be more open to listening to other conservatives and not ramming their own personal preferences down our throats as Rudy, McCain, Hillery, Obama et all would. Thereby having a real chance to make a difference in the current 'do nothing Congress'.


35 posted on 11/26/2007 9:12:43 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: gpapa
Someone that a globalist, mega-corporation pal would call "protectionist" is someone to take an interest in.
36 posted on 11/26/2007 9:14:38 AM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: gpapa
Christian conservatives beware! Mike Duckabee is a False Prophet! He is no conservative. Duckabee may be pro-life but ain't no doubt about it, he's a Nanny State & Amnesty loving liberal.

Quacks like a Duckabee
Walks like a Duckabee
Two webbed feet and never a tax hike bill he doesn't like.
Yup! I'm calling it a Duckabee.

This guy is not for Christian conservatives, he's a FALSE PROPHET!

37 posted on 11/26/2007 9:16:04 AM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: lesser_satan
"Ping! It seems people are starting to notice that Huckabee is a socialist loser."

...and a mirror of Jimmy Carter
38 posted on 11/26/2007 9:28:55 AM PST by SeeSalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Good to see that Bob Novak is finally doing something useful.

Has Novak attacked every major Republican candidate except Giuliani? I don't know if I consider that useful.

39 posted on 11/26/2007 11:02:52 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: gpapa

Even though I agree with much of the criticism regarding Huckabee’s fiscal and economic record, I’m wondering if some people in the base are being too purist in wanting a candidate who fits their political preferences 97-100%. Getting a perfect candidate like that is impossible.

When it comes to McCain and Giuliani, I totally sympathize with the conservative base voters’ unhappiness with them because they both have offended conservatives in so many ways all through their careers. But when it comes to some of the other candidates, I think it is a mistake to completely reject them outright just because of a few disagreements on some policy matters. If we were always so picky about ideology, we would never have elected even Ronald Reagan!


40 posted on 11/26/2007 11:04:22 AM PST by blitzgig
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