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To: Porterville

It’s the Americans at the entry or lower level of income who are feeling the impact of illegal immigration.


252 posted on 11/26/2007 6:38:23 AM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll
It’s the Americans at the entry or lower level of income who are feeling the impact of illegal immigration.

I couldn’t agree more.

I find that, unfortunately, most people I talk to in the upper middle class just look at their own existence and say, “This is okay. I don’t see what the problem is.”

The problem is that not every American can afford to live in areas that are isolated from the negative effects of mass Third World immigration.

To illustrate, I talked to a 50 yr. woman working at the local mall, a single now (possibly widowed) and mother of 6 kids. Out of the blue she conveyed to me that she hadn’t slept the night before. She left all the lights and TV on out of fear. Why? It’s the illegal hispanic gangs roaming her neighborhood.

An elderly lady had been murdered in her what was once a nice neighborhood. Also, A couple of doors down a 70 year old answered knock at her door. An hispanic guy with a ponytail asked her, “Do you live alone. Can I use your bathroom.”

This fear is the reality in lower income America today. They can’t afford to move away. No matter what Bush and the other open borders people would like to believe. Real Americans are suffering because of their policies and lack of action.

I signed up to serve in the Air Force at age 17 - to fight communism. I find now that while many of us focused on the threat that was outside the country, we were betrayed by our leaders back home.

I didn’t put my life on the line (Gulf War I) to have middle-aged American women in my hometown sleepless because of the danger they face from invaders that have been allowed into this country.

To find out how I really feel, read my post #244

259 posted on 11/26/2007 7:44:43 AM PST by HighFlier
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My friend Paperdoll, I take note that you, like so many, put all the emphasis on "illegal" immigration and seem uncomfortable with a challenge to a high level of "legal" immigration.

The illegality is a very obvious and very sufficient basis on which to object to the current invasion.It must be our first order of business.

However, I urge everyone not to be fearful about expressing a concern with an excessively high level of immigration whether it is legal or illegal.

The open borders crowd wants America to have no cultural, religious, ethnic, or linguistic identity. They want it to be like NYC, a muliticultural swirl totally detached from the Norman Rockwell America of our red state childhoods.

Immigration is a matter of national policy (as in every country), and it is regulated in the political process. That policy determines how many newcomers we will accept in a given period and how they will be selected. It is an absolutely fair topic of conversation at all times. The open borders/RINO/neocon crowd has us real conservatives so cowed that some of us feel that it is automatically racist to have any concern over immigration other than illegal immigration. (Actually, they tried to identity even illegal immigration as a racist concern, but, happily, that blew up in their faces.)

We have -- right now -- far too many newly arrived immigrants in the country, most of whom seem likely to stay, regardless of whether they got here legally or illegally (although we must keep up the pressure for the illegal ones to leave).

Right now, I agree with Pat that we need a moratorium on all immigration, although I would make some exceptions for hardships and critical skills. While we are taking a breather to let the country try to assimilate those new arrivals who are to remain, we need to consider our policy toward future legal immigration: How many/from where/selected by what criteria. For example, I would strongly urge that "chain migration" be ended and that economic skills rather than family connections become the major criteria. And, I would want to act strongly to insure that our immigrants comprise a diverse group, not an invasion from a single culture that intends to setup a competing culture within our borders, if not actually break apart our country.

Opposition to illegal immigration is a no-brainer. But an interest and concern with how we regulate our legal immigration is just as legitimate. I urge everyone not to be cowed by the old canards: racist, xenophobe, nativist, bigot, etc. They are slanders from the anti-American left intended to induce such shame in the American people that we are embarrassed to regulate our immigration according to our national interests as almost every other country on earth does.

262 posted on 11/26/2007 7:59:19 AM PST by SergeiRachmaninov
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