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I'm not posting this to discredit Congressman Hunter, who I think is a great candidate and a great man. I'm posting it to discredit the Club for Growth, which apparently specializes in creating the impression that conservatives are liberal.

Among other problems with their list of "troubling" votes, I'd say their suggestion that a vote in favor of the 527 Reform Act constitutes a flip-flop on McCain-Feingold is blatant deception and an outrageous cheap shot.

1 posted on 11/24/2007 6:20:54 PM PST by Kurt Evans
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The club for growth cares only about money but are otherwise pretty erratic about who they support. They supported my congressman who is a good anti amnesty conservative. Frankly one of the reasons I voted against my old congressman was his yes vote on CAFTA.


2 posted on 11/24/2007 6:26:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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That's why I say hey man nice shot...

Who is you're pick BTW?
3 posted on 11/24/2007 6:27:00 PM PST by kinoxi
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Kurt Evans wrote: “I’m not posting this to discredit Congressman Hunter, who I think is a great candidate and a great man. I’m posting it to discredit the Club for Growth, which apparently specializes in creating the impression that conservatives are liberal.”

So you think No Child Left Behind and the 2003 Medicare Drug Benefit are solid, fiscally conservative votes?


4 posted on 11/24/2007 6:30:08 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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I give Hunter a pass on the Flake Amendments, as a committee chairman he had to support the other chairmen!


5 posted on 11/24/2007 6:30:56 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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The club for growth is perhaps the most outstanding political organization in existance, IMO. They have an excellent track record and reputation so I take what they say as money to the bank, IMO.


7 posted on 11/24/2007 6:32:31 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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I keep thinking this is the group that helps bald guys. But that’s another one right?


8 posted on 11/24/2007 6:34:23 PM PST by isom35
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The economic republicans are no better than the far left anti war.

Hunter’s record re military and national security along with dealing with the issues of illegals for decades are the main issue facing us starting with the war.

BTW Hunter’s son just got home the other day from his third tour in the war.

If your home is buring down are you going to call your stock broker or the fire dept.

I don’t care what any candidate thinks on economics.
If we don’t win this war, no money, constitution, etc. will mean nothing.


9 posted on 11/24/2007 6:35:26 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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By selective reporting, just about anyone whose vote is on record can be shown in a bad light. Hunter voted and wasn’t coy about it—or absent. That’s what representative government is about.

Meanwhile, not a word in what you cited about the Sanctity of Life, for example, or the Second Amendment—or private property rights—or swift, sure criminal justice. The closer I look at Club for Growth, the more RINO it looks and the less I trust their rankings. I’d sure like to be wrong on this but it walks like a duck...and I hear quacking.

“Conservative” means that human life and private property matter supremely—and worth going to war and building fences to protect and defend.


15 posted on 11/24/2007 6:53:13 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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The NFIB (National Federation of Independent Businessmen) gives Hunter a 100% rating as a defender of small business having voted in the best interest of small business, the backbone of America thank you very much, on 13 key pieces of legislation during the 109th congress.

BTW he got a 100% for the 108th congress as well.

Perhaps this isn't such a big deal to some, but since it's my livelihood...

P.S. Ron Paul scored (82%/85%) and Tom Tancredo scored (100%/92%). Just for sh*ts and giggles, Clinton (13%/0%), Obama (13%/NA), Kucinich (8%/0%), Pelosi (8%/8%), Kennedy (0%/0%), Kerry (0%/0%), Dodd (11%/0%), Biden (25%/0%)

Just so we're clear on who supports the backbone of America.

22 posted on 11/24/2007 7:03:40 PM PST by infidel29 (Voting for Paul? Might as well make it Ru Paul, he's got better legs.)
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I thought this was going to be a hair thread:’)


27 posted on 11/24/2007 7:13:24 PM PST by CindyDawg
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Not possible. Duncan Hunter is perfect, flawless - a conservative’s conservative.

Anyone who says Duncan Hunter isn’t the ideal candidate, and who doesn’t support him for the nomination, is a vile abortion-loving, CFR-supporting, Barbra-Streisand-listening, amnesty-promoting amoeba on Rosie O’Donnell’s foot fungus. Plus he smells bad.

If you support any candidate other than Duncan Hunter, you support eliminating every branch of the armed forces and replacing their members with Peace Corps volunteers, poetry communes, and Hip-Hop outreach programs. You not only support gay marriage; you OFFICIATE at gay marriages. Between illegal aliens.

There is no explanation short of an inclination for treason not to support Duncan Hunter. He is the only member of the Republican party with the intelligence, charisma, experience, temperament, integrity, wit, sagacity, piety, patriotism, virtue, and judgment to be President. He is also very good looking.

I could be convinced to support another candidate ONLY if he would agree to let Duncan Hunter be the Vice President and also hold every other cabinet position - and even then, only reluctantly.

I’m getting very disappointed in the wishywashiness of some Hunter supporters here. There are a couple of you - and you know who you are - who haven’t said you would vote third party rather than support any candidate other than Duncan. I’ll bet you have “Farenheit 911” in your video collections, don’t you? You make me sick, and should be drummed from the party. We don’t need your RINO kind here, thank you!

Hank

35 posted on 11/24/2007 7:22:14 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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Honestly I think this is about the only real “flaw” in Rep. Hunter’s record. I know there are a lot of people on the Right (especially the business crowd) that see Rep. Hunter as a protectionist with his hard stance on Red China, with whom the States does a lot of business (unfortunately).

Yes, there are some questions on his fiscal record. That being said, they are relatively mild compared to those of Gov. Huckabee, for instance, or Gov. Romney. A sitting President doesn’t usually issue pork projects, and some of the “pork” projects Rep. Hunter supported (e.g. the border fence) were in fact in the national interest. No candidate is going to be absolutely perfect. In my opinion, however, Rep. Hunter is the best candidate on the key issues of the day in the long run— strong opposition to amnesty, strong on the WOT, socially conservative (very important when picking judges), and when he spends money, it’s on the important stuff. As long as Rep. Hunter can raise the necessary revenues to fund his proposals, and not in the form of increasing progressive income taxes, then I have no problem with him.

Let’s remember here: Club for Growth wrote of Giuliani in a positive light a few months back.


40 posted on 11/24/2007 7:31:14 PM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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Tuesday, November 20, 2007

Club for Growth Challenges Huckabee to a Debate

The following is a press release I received from the Club

for Growth. They are challenging Mike Huckabee to a public

debate about his fiscal record, one replete with never-

ending taxes and spending. Huck has called into question

the claims of the Club for Growth, but he hasn’t been able

to disprove any of them. Instead, he’s been parsing the

issues, claiming the mantle of fiscal conservative while

excusing his career of being a fiscal liberal.


41 posted on 11/24/2007 7:32:36 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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They look for a pro-business, fiscally conservative candidate.

Hunter isn’t strong in either sense. He’s not bad, but both Thompson and even Romney do better in that regard.


44 posted on 11/24/2007 7:38:58 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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That’s it - - I’m voting for Walter Williams.


58 posted on 11/24/2007 8:50:36 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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this is why I switched from Hunter to Fred. Hunter turned out to be one of the “Hastert Republicans” who didn’t get the message on spending and why we lost in 2006.


59 posted on 11/24/2007 8:55:52 PM PST by ari-freedom (Scientific consensus is formed by the public schools and government grants.)
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Among other problems with their list of "troubling" votes, I'd say their suggestion that a vote in favor of the 527 Reform Act constitutes a flip-flop on McCain-Feingold is blatant deception and an outrageous cheap shot.

Hunter was also instrumental in pushing the Internet gambling ban. Anyone who censors the Internet and illegally extends the reach of American law enforcement overseas is off my list.

60 posted on 11/24/2007 8:56:22 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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Hunter is on the House Armed services Committee. Should Hunter make like Code Pink and refuse to fund the war on terrorism? Club for Growth is an anti-war organization.

Club for Growth is also a free-trade organization. Intent on selling American jobs to the lowest bidder.

Club for Growth is a shrill Libertarian organization.


62 posted on 11/24/2007 9:00:00 PM PST by Hunterite
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The Club for Growth is another globalist turd factory, just like the Ad Council.


68 posted on 11/24/2007 9:20:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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I’ll never understand why a restoration company for male pattern baldness has an interest in politics.


73 posted on 11/24/2007 9:33:50 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (If piece is the answer, Bill Clinton asked the question.)
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