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To: Ken H

“At what time in the video did Massey say that?”

Around 7:45

“And we’re still waiting for you to address several challenges to your claim in post #475 that the officer “stated” the couple’s behavior was strange.”

Two different officers arrived as backup. Gardner said it to the second one. That part is not on the video now. It stops after the first backup officer and doesn’t get to the second.

Massey’s lawyers edited the tape, and Massey himself arranged to have it released and posted on YOUTUBE.

He has also made further statements (there was a thread here on FR about this) criticizing those who are now attacking Gardner.

In the video, Massey continues walking away from Gardner while being told to turn around and put his hands behind his back. The only thing turned ‘around’ is his head, the rest of his body is facing towards his vehicle, and he never stops walking away from the officer until he gets hit with the tazer.


506 posted on 11/30/2007 5:12:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: UCANSEE2
Two different officers arrived as backup. Gardner said it to the second one. That part is not on the video now. It stops after the first backup officer and doesn't get to the second.

Are you saying two versions of the video were on the net?

Massey's lawyers edited the tape, and Massey himself arranged to have it released and posted on YOUTUBE.

So where did the unedited tape come from? Or are you saying that Massey released an unedited version, then substitute the edited one? Please clarify this.

In the video, Massey continues walking away from Gardner while being told to turn around and put his hands behind his back.

Following those instructions would have meant suddenly stopping, and turning around to face the officer with his hands reaching behind his back.

If you were a cop questioning someone, would you want him facing you with two free hands behind his back?

510 posted on 11/30/2007 7:09:41 PM PST by Ken H
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To: UCANSEE2
Gardner said it to the second one. That part is not on the video now

So... now you claim he said that on a part of the tape that we all can't hear. I'm sorry.. but, I think even you would have to admit that your track record is pretty poor when it comes to hearing things correctly on a tape. I'd have to hear that for myself.... even if he DID say... It would most likely be in the context of the lies he was telling other officers to justify his own actions.. which, he KNEW were wrong.

I'm sorry.. but, I have NOT been able to find any other post where Massey is defensing Gardner... I've searched everwhere here.. and, googled it. I've seen NOTHING even remotely close to that. Perhaps... since you 'saw' it... you can locate it for us??

514 posted on 11/30/2007 7:44:09 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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