“Well... this is why he physically has to TAKE THE TICKET... whether he signs it, or not. “
Based on his repeated delay in giving the officer his license, registration
..on his refusal to sign
..on his not listening to anything the officer was saying.
..on telling the officer “No. I tell you what we’re gonna do, we are...”
..on his being told twice to turn around, four times to put his hands behind his back
What makes you think he would take the ticket????
He refused everything else.
I have already refuted this point... Massey did NOT "repeatedly" refuse to provide his license and registration.... Gardner only asked, TWICE.. and, it took Massey all of 71 seconds to comply. I don't know about you... but, it would take me a few seconds to find my registration... and, at first, Massey was more intent in trying to discuss WHY he was being stopped. In no way, did he REFUSE To comply in providing documentation....
What makes you think he would take the ticket????
You really aren't getting my point on this, are you. After Gardner has WRITTEN the ticket.. Massey CANNOT just "refuse it". If only it were that simple. If Massey refuses to sign, or accept the ticket... then, he will be confronted by an entirely new arm of "the system"... he'll have bench warrants issued, and additional fines assessed. None of this has ANY negative impact on Gardner... it's ALL on Massey.
This little revenue-generating system our legislators have developed is QUITE effective at forcing "normal people" to comply. We don't need bad-ass officers with tasers to enforce speeding tickets.
Gardner, SURELY knew this... Massey would have found out, quickly... if he didn't already know.
I'm sorry... I've still heard NO COMPELLING REASON TO ARREST MASSEY.. from anyone. Because, there WAS.. NO REASON... except, Gardner was pissed (or tired, as another as proposed).. and, didn't like Massey. I'm sorry.. that is NOT sufficient reasoning.
At what time in the video did Massey say that?
Once again, you are claiming something that no one else heard. You've already been forced to back off from at least 2 false claims about the audio alone.
And we're still waiting for you to address several challenges to your claim in post #475 that the officer "stated" the couple's behavior was strange.