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To: SomeCallMeTim

“I think the driver was just being ignorant and stupid. Crazy me.. I EXPECT the cop to be smarter... based on his superior understanding of the law.”


Based on his experience, he could have used several options.

Again. Hindsight is 20/20.

Regardless to endless claims that the driver ‘did nothing wrong’, and whether or not he ‘saw’ the alleged ‘first 40mph’ sign, or the second, he had violated the posted speed limit.

He would not accept the responsibility for it like a man, and got treated like a child who got punished for his behavior.

Blame the cop for not being perfect, or for having ‘had it’ with the ‘young driver’ who thought he had the ‘RIGHT’ to order the policeman around.

Once more, A driver’s license is a privilege, not a RIGHT.

You do not have the RIGHT to TRY your court case on the side of the road.


Take away Tasers from the police. Take away their billy-clubs, mace, and their revolvers. Take away their badges. Only allow them to drive regular cars like everyone else. Make them pull up beside you and beg you to pull over. Ignore them and keep driving, because you don’t THINK you did anything wrong, since you pay taxes and own the road.

Take away YOUR guns, and the RIGHT to have them. When home invaders come and rape your wife and daughters, call the police. Let them tell you they don’t THINK the robbers did anything wrong, therefore they aren’t gonna show up, besides, they no longer have guns, or tasers, or cars, so.... you are on your own.

That is the road you are going down, with the line of thought you have been pursuing.


454 posted on 11/26/2007 3:30:08 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: UCANSEE2

“Take away YOUR guns, and the RIGHT to have them. When home invaders come and rape your wife and daughters, call the police. Let them tell you they don’t THINK the robbers did anything wrong, therefore they aren’t gonna show up, besides, they no longer have guns, or tasers, or cars, so.... you are on your own.”

You really don’t get it do you. The American public does not want to see fellow citizens tasered on the side of a busy highway for a stupid ticket. If the driver had threatened the officer it would be different.

Seems all some cops know how to do these days is apply force.


456 posted on 11/26/2007 4:55:06 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: UCANSEE2
Once more, A driver’s license is a privilege, not a RIGHT.

Wrong.

Driving is a Right - Not a Privilege.

Take away Tasers from the police. Take away their billy-clubs, mace, and their revolvers. Take away their badges. Only allow them to drive regular cars like everyone else. Make them pull up beside you and beg you to pull over. Ignore them and keep driving, because you don’t THINK you did anything wrong, since you pay taxes and own the road.

Good idea.

457 posted on 11/26/2007 5:10:12 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: UCANSEE2

What??? You have got to be kidding now, right?? Where did this load of BS come from?

Again.... SO much is wrong with this last post, it’s hard to know where to start.

First off... How do YOU KNOW that this driver exceeded the speed limit? Because this proven liar of an officer says so? What if there IS NO previous sign? Was he clocked on radar exceeding the limit? If so, the officer never says so. Why should the driver “accept the responsibilty for it like a man” if he hasn’t done anything? We don’t know whether he did, or not.

I still contend, that.. Massey was not disrespectful in trying to ask questions about what was going on. This was NOT a long conversation.. Massey was certainly not “ordering the policeman around”... he was just trying to talk to him to understand what he was being accused of. Man.. what a terrible thing, a motorist that wants to talk! Oh, the horror!

I have said NOTHING about taking all tasers or guns away from officers. If you think I am “anti-police”, you are very wrong. I know several personally (including my next door neighbor, and 1st cousin). I am a CONSERVATIVE, and generally supportive of the LEO’s in the world. But.. I also know abuse, arrogance, and sloppy procedure when I see it.

The “four times” Gardner told Massey to “turn around” took less than 3 seconds to take place. Gardner had no intention of waiting for compliance...he was JACKED UP, and determined to taze this guy. period. But again, they NEVER should have gotten to this point.

Actually... I’m done talking about this anymore. There is absolutely NO REASON (other than poor judgement) for Gardner to tell Massey to “hop out of the car”. There was NO CAUSE for an arrest in this case. Anyone who thinks there was... well, they’re just looking for ways to cover for a cop making a VERY POOR decision.

It’s really not debatable. So, I will quit. Have a nice life.


462 posted on 11/26/2007 7:46:49 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: UCANSEE2
Take away Tasers from the police. Take away their billy-clubs, mace, and their revolvers. Take away their badges. Only allow them to drive regular cars like everyone else.

Sounds good to me.

484 posted on 11/28/2007 12:27:55 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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