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To: SomeCallMeTim

“I do hear the driver saying, “No, I’m not”.... I think, to whether or not he will sign the ticket.”

That is correct.


“I would LIKE to hear some evidence that the officer warned him he might be arrested.”

I listened several times, and I don’t hear the officer make that statement either.


“the cop seems to have made up his mind about what he’s going to do, but doesn’t bother to inform the driver.”

I think “turn around and put your hands behind your back”,”turn around put your hands behind your back”, “turn around”, “turn around” is pretty clear.

FOUR CHANCES to do as the officer asked.

Anyone who doesn’t understand that “turn around and put your hands behind your back” means you are being ‘arrested’, is a pretty delusional person.


“Just curious... In what state do you patrol?”

I guess I asked for that with my “do they call you Massey” comment.

You misjudge me on that. My only associations with the police have been on the barrel end of their guns.
Once was on the barrel end of a SWAT rifle, with the so called Jack Booted thugs wearing ski masks.


416 posted on 11/24/2007 8:23:41 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: UCANSEE2
I think “turn around and put your hands behind your back”,”turn around put your hands behind your back”, “turn around”, “turn around” is pretty clear

FOUR CHANCES to do as the officer asked.

To a cop, or someone familiar with what they do... saying, "Turn around and put your hands behind your back"... may be the same thing as "I'm placing you under arrest". But, to an inexperience person... it is NOT the same. Typically.. cops say BOTH things...

In this case.. Gardner never got to the "I'm placing you under arrest part".. cause, even on the FIRST SAYING, he was drawing his weapon... and screaming. It took all of 3.5 seconds before the taser was fired. 3.5 seconds for Massey to try to comprehend what, exactly, was going on...

This DID NOT have to happen this way. It did, only because Gardner was trigger-happy, lazy, and unprofessional. IMHO.

436 posted on 11/25/2007 9:07:00 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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