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To: SomeCallMeTim

“You say Massey was going to “refuse the ticket?”

I said he refused to sign the ticket (accept the ticket is another way of saying that). I know that because I heard him state he would not sign it.

Again, I apologize for the ‘personal attacks’. They never accomplish anything. I misunderstood one of your comments at the time.
“And, this cop picked the WRONG one.”

I interpreted that as you taking it a little bit too personally.

Yesterday, posters, like yourself, were ‘attacking’ me, and I responded in kind.

Today is a new day, and some of those same posters, including you, were much more civil, and open-minded about this subject. I responded in kind.

I think the driver , regardless to any excuses, was way out of line.
I think the officer did have some other options.

What I think isn’t going to matter one bit. It will depend on what happens in court, and what the Utah police department judges is proper policy, and what is not.

You think the officer picked the wrong battle, I think the driver picked the wrong battle.

If the driver didn’t see the speed limit sign (which was clearly visible from his vehicle as he passed the police car), then I would suggest to you that he needs to improve his awareness level when operating a motor vehicle, and that might save somebody’s life some day.


404 posted on 11/24/2007 6:33:29 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: UCANSEE2
You think the officer picked the wrong battle, I think the driver picked the wrong battle.

Well.. here, I think we're probably both correct. The difference is.. I think the driver was just being ignorant and stupid. Crazy me.. I EXPECT the cop to be smarter... based on his superior understanding of the law.

407 posted on 11/24/2007 6:46:22 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: UCANSEE2
If the driver didn’t see the speed limit sign (which was clearly visible from his vehicle as he passed the police car), then I would suggest to you that he needs to improve his awareness level when operating a motor vehicle, and that might save somebody’s life some day

There you go again.. getting the facts wrong. The driver DID NOT SAY he didn't see the sign we all see on the video. In fact, he says he DID see it, and was slowing down. He claimed, he was not even TO the sign when the officer turned on his lights. Which, if the video begins when the lights are turned on... is accurate.

The driver says he DIDN'T SEE another speed limit sign that the officer says is located a "half mile back".

We don't know whether that existed.

408 posted on 11/24/2007 6:50:13 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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