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To: SomeCallMeTim

OK. Watched the video AGAIN, just to be sure.

Officer asks driver to sign the ticket.
He Refuses to do so.
Officer asks him to step out of vehicle.
Asks him to put his hands behind his back.
Officer tells him “I am placing you under arrest”.
Driver says “no you are not.”
Driver starts walking back toward his vehicle.

That is when the officer fired the taser at him.

If you cannot see who caused the problem, who is guilty, then you are just trying to fool yourself. You are not fooling anyone with any smattering of intelligence.

Please, watch the video (not on youtube) on the link to the original post, and see if what I say is TRUE, or NOT.

(List of DRIVER’s attempts to WHINE his way out of ticket).

I didn’t see the sign.
I saw it but hadn’t reached it yet. (Only one of the two statements can be true)
You have to read me my rights
You have to listen to me.
You have to let me explain.
I’m gonna take you back there and show you.
You didn’t tell me what I did wrong.
You didn’t tell me how fast I was going.

REASONS MOST POSTERS SAY COP WAS WRONG
Driver’s wife was cute.
Driver’s wife was pregnant.
Driver’s wife was crying.
Driver’s wife had small child in back seat.


If necessary, I will go back and do a transcript of the conversation on the videocam tape. I might later this afternoon. However, after discussions on several threads on this case, I am of the opinion that if GOD HIMSELF stood in front of all these posters and told them they were absolutely wrong, they would all ..... ask for GOD to read them their rights, and refuse to sign.


264 posted on 11/23/2007 12:17:57 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: UCANSEE2
You said:OK. Watched the video AGAIN, just to be sure.

Officer asks driver to sign the ticket.
He Refuses to do so.
Officer asks him to step out of vehicle.
Asks him to put his hands behind his back.
Officer tells him “I am placing you under arrest”.
Driver says “no you are not.”
Driver starts walking back toward his vehicle.

That is when the officer fired the taser at him.

If you cannot see who caused the problem, who is guilty, then you are just trying to fool yourself. You are not fooling anyone with any smattering of intelligence.

Please, watch the video (not on youtube) on the link to the original post, and see if what I say is TRUE, or NOT.

Okay, I watched the video again and again. You wrote:

Officer tells him “I am placing you under arrest”.
Driver says “no you are not.”
.

Sorry, I did not hear that part. Could you have imagined he said that?

279 posted on 11/23/2007 1:09:32 PM PST by rawhide
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To: UCANSEE2

REASONS MOST POSTERS SAY COP WAS WRONG

Can’t you read? Most posters say the Revenuer was wrong is that he abused his position


298 posted on 11/23/2007 1:58:41 PM PST by sobieski
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To: UCANSEE2

Here is a transcript of the important part of the exchange.. ( I clipped from another thread)

Massey: No, I’m not. I’m not signing anything.

Gardner: Okay, hop out of the car.

Gardner then turns his back to the driver and walks back to set his clipboard down on the bumper of his car. As he’s doing this, Massey gets out of the car and approaches the police cruiser. As he does, he is pointing down in the direction he just came from. He is saying something unintelligible, but most likely about the speed limit sign. The officer acts as if he’s surprised to see the guy out of his vehicle, even though he just told him to ‘hop out of the car’.

Gardner: Turn around, put your hands behind your back. (by the time he gets to the word “hands” THE VERY FIRST TIME he’s already got his own hand on his taser and is pulling it from its holster)

Massey: ...continues to say something about the speed limit sign...

Gardner: Turn around, put your hands behind your back. NOW.

Massey: What the hell is wrong with you

At this point Massey TURNS AROUND and begins walking slowly toward his vehicle. It is clear from watching the tape that he had no idea why this cop was pulling a gun on him, and if you watch the CNN interview you’ll see that he does say he thought it was a real gun. He had a natural reaction which was to turn his back to the danger and attempt to distance himself from it.

Gardner: Turn around. Turn around. (Again, it’s not clear what the officer is asking him to do. Massey has already TURNED AROUND and is facing in the opposite direction from where he was the first time this directive was issued.)

Massey: What the heck’s wrong with you?

At this point, Gardner fires the taser.

That’s everything up to the point of the taser. Despite what some are saying about editing of the video, none of this portion of the video is edited.

So... UCANSEE2, I’m sorry.. but again.. you’re just wrong. The officer did NOT say, “I am placing you under arrest”. If only he HAD said that.... things might have been very different. It seems like you are projecting things that you THINK should be there.. but, aren’t.


320 posted on 11/23/2007 8:29:53 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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