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UHP on defense in Taser incident
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 11/22/2007, 07:56:09 AM MST | Nathan C. Gonzalez

Posted on 11/22/2007 7:37:13 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
When the officer informed the guy he was under arrest,

Yes but there were no grounds for the arrest, and the cop is going to get his a** drug through court.

21 posted on 11/22/2007 8:18:42 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: G8 Diplomat

LOL..You beat me to it..

The trigger happy officer was a way over the top, but when your traveling with your pregnant wife out in the middle of nowhere just sign the stupid ticket and argue your case in front of a judge if your so inclined.


22 posted on 11/22/2007 8:20:20 AM PST by Keflavik76
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
You got that right! The taser, which can kill, is a lethal weapon. Same for any item used should never be used unless the officer is in immediate danger. Not signing a traffic ticket does not qualify. If Massey had a pace maker or another physical problem and died, I bet that officer would not have to answer. There is a time for force, but this is not one.
23 posted on 11/22/2007 8:20:29 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: org.whodat

I didn’t miss this part: “In the event that a motorist refuses to sign, a trooper can simply write ‘refuses to sign’ on the citation, which is then given to the driver, or they can chose to arrest the motorist, Roden said.” Did I miss another part, or are you just making stuff up as you go along?


24 posted on 11/22/2007 8:21:59 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Sue Bob

His guilt or innocence of what? The resisting arrest charges have already been dismissed. All that remains is the ticket.

I did not see that the resisting arrest charges had been dropped in the referenced article. I did see this though

"The Masseys declined a request Tuesday for an interview until they could speak with their attorney. Jared Massey is still fighting the speeding charge in Uintah County Justice Court. A trial is set for Jan. 12."

"By late Tuesday, no civil complaints against Gardner or highway patrol had been filed."

25 posted on 11/22/2007 8:23:55 AM PST by yuleeyahoo
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I still haven’t figured out why “Turn around and put your hands behind your back NOW,” when delivered by a cop with a Taser pointed at your noggin, is considered “optional compliance.”


26 posted on 11/22/2007 8:25:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

“”I can’t speculate to this incident what was going through officer’s mind,” Roden said. “The officer has to weigh a lot of different things.””

Yeah they do, Feed the Donuts or the Ego first.


27 posted on 11/22/2007 8:28:15 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: org.whodat
Yes but there were no grounds for the arrest, and the cop is going to get his a** drug through court.

In the event that a motorist refuses to sign, a trooper can simply write "refuses to sign" on the citation, which is then given to the driver, or they can chose to arrest the motorist, Roden said.

28 posted on 11/22/2007 8:28:15 AM PST by yuleeyahoo
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To: 1rudeboy

“I still haven’t figured out why “Turn around and put your hands behind your back NOW,” when delivered by a cop with a Taser pointed at your noggin, is considered “optional compliance.””

Its not but the cop was clearly without basis for issuing that command. If a cop orders a woman to give him sex it is not a legal command.


29 posted on 11/22/2007 8:29:30 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

I’m sorry, I’ll only reply to people who have demonstrated they’ve read the article from now on.


30 posted on 11/22/2007 8:31:41 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: yuleeyahoo

I would say the cop made the wrong choice, the charges have been dropped! In the end he’ll probably be having a career change as well.


31 posted on 11/22/2007 8:32:15 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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What is the operating procedure for explaining why you're giving a ticket and for listening to the driver's questions and explanation?

This driver didn't sign so I guess he can be arrested. But we all know officers can create a situation in which you're in a corner and you will be arrested if you don't shut up or toe the line. In my opinion the officer acted too abruptly and helped the situation along that led to the taser and the arrest. The driver was too determined and didn't realize the officer drew a short line.

32 posted on 11/22/2007 8:35:27 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The 10-minute video begins as the officer passes a sign clearly showing a speed limit of 40 mph on U.S. 40 in Uintah County.

Considering the road and traffic conditions visible in the video, the only conceivable justification for a 40mph daytime stop is revenue enhancement for the 400 person ----holes that that road passes through.

I don't see traffic safety, I see armed highway robbery.

33 posted on 11/22/2007 8:35:43 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: CGTRWK
Plus...if that was the BEGINNING of the 40 mph zone, a motorist should be allowed to slow down to comply.

The SUV clearly passes the cop...so it may have been a speed trap of sorts. The driver kept asking what he did wrong.

34 posted on 11/22/2007 8:39:33 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The trooper ordered the driver to turn around and put his hands behind his back then immediately reached for the taser not the handcuffs. The trooper then shoots the motorist in the back without even turning around to see if a car or truck was approaching in the right lane. I didn’t see this motorist as any kind of a threat while at the same time this trooper put this motorists life in danger over a $50 ticket.

This was a cowardly act. The terrorist prisoners in Iraq get better treatment than this!

35 posted on 11/22/2007 8:43:45 AM PST by vigilante2 (Thank You Troops)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
A better lesson:

How to not get your ass kicked by the police

36 posted on 11/22/2007 8:44:48 AM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Don’t tase me, bro!...

the guy had the bill o’reilly bumper sticker on his car!!!


37 posted on 11/22/2007 8:46:54 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: 1rudeboy

At least your tagline is appropiate. Should add something more though.


38 posted on 11/22/2007 8:49:23 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Such as, I have little patience for people who confuse their opinions with fact?


39 posted on 11/22/2007 8:51:14 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

40 posted on 11/22/2007 8:54:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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