Posted on 11/22/2007 7:37:13 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
“Since a bunch of whiners running on emotion and no analysis hit the thread early, that’s about all you’ll see here. Most of the stories about cops on FR involve gross misconduct, so there’s a lot of prejudice up front before they even read the article.”
So anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a whiner? You must be a cop cause your ego is obstructing your view. “I feel sorry for you.”
“This is NOT propaganda... it’s a video record of what happened... for ALL to see. And what it shows is.. a smart-ass kid who is obviously ignorant of the amount of trouble he’s in... and, and ass-hole cop who thinks everyone he sees should hop on his command.
I think... it is ONLY the cop who has anything to worry about from this video. THAT ALONE speaks volumes.”
Well stated. I’m sure there is great concern among the rank and file that the dash cams are being used against the LEOs now.
Bootlicking, oh sure. I side against the cops on most of the law enforcement threads here on FR.
Here’s a crazy thought: I’d like to see the full un-edited version of the tape. Place your bets that it was edited in Massey’s favor.
This driver’s attitude from the beginning set the tone of the encounter. It’s sad that so many young brats grow up to be older brats these days with no respect for authority and who think they must challenge and give attitude to authorities.
In this case I’ll support the officer 100%. The jerk deserved to get tasered as it was obvious he had no respect for authority from the beginning. The officer shouldn’t even be expected to wrinkle his shirt in dealing with this jerk.
Yeah and?
And... just to answer you flamers: Yes.. I understand that being a cop is a DIFFICULT job. One that can become life-threatening at any moment. I get that. That’s why, some people just can’t, or shouldn’t do it.
On this day...this cop was one who shouldn’t be carrying a lethal weapon representing the public. I’d want to hear more of his record before wanting to get rid of him. But, he definitely needs some type of discipline to get him to understand why his actions were unacceptable. Maybe, he should just have to watch the film a 100 times....
My guess is... he still feels like the victim here. I doubt he “gets it”.
The cop should be charged with reckless endangerment.
What complete moron would taser someone along side of a very busy highway knowing that the victim may fall into the path of an oncoming vehicle?
Besides everything else, tasers kill.
This is clearly assault with a deadly weapon.
“The jerk deserved to get tasered as it was obvious he had no respect for authority from the beginning. The officer shouldn’t even be expected to wrinkle his shirt in dealing with this jerk.”
So we deserve to get tazered if we don’t kiss up to our betters?
You know... just as instant replay has shown that baseball umps are ALMOST ALWAYS right... dashboard videos bolster the COPS side of things about 98% of the time. But, they do occasionally catch the other side too.. All in all, I definitely think the cameras help to protect us all.
or they can chose to arrest the motorist,
It is sad... but, it is also all too common these days. Any cop who hasn't learned how to deal with that is doomed to be sued out of existence. You can't just go around tazering every obnoxious brat.
Thought you might like to read more info from the driver’s point of view. It does not make the cops look any better. In fact, it seems that the state police has been dragging their feet in this investigation, perhaps hoping this would all go away? I think not now with the video being released.
“Bootlicking, oh sure. I side against the cops on most of the law enforcement threads here on FR.”
Yes bootlicking. Calling those who think this cops behavior was inappropriate “whiners” does not match with what you just said.
“Here’s a crazy thought: I’d like to see the full un-edited version of the tape. Place your bets that it was edited in Massey’s favor.”
Probably was. Massey did act in a stupid manner. He was probably upset at getting caught in an obvious speed trap. The cops should have diffused the situation. Instead the cop chose to escalate it to a point where the guys life was put at risk.
LEOs are not responsible for individual safety but they are public servants. This cop and many bootlickers on here seem to think citizens are the servants of the cops.
Lessons learned: don’t walk away from him while jamming your hands in your pockets. That’s a guarantee to hit the ground very hard.
All this “brat” learned was: everything he always thought about police officers is true.... they are ignorant, power-hungry, low class peons who should be ignored, and sued.
I don’t believe this, in fact I know it NOT to be true..... but, that sums up what this “brat” will take from this experience. That, and a nice sum of money.
The driver was too determined
Then, I would respectfully submit: YOU should NOT be a cop either. There were better ways to bring this punk down to earth. The cop DOES have the authority of the law behind him. He doesn't HAVE to immediately resort to force.
I know-I rarely post on these type threads because I really know facts, reason and analysis shouldn’t get in the way of good healthy “Jack Booted Revenue collecting out of control militatized, small p***sed power hungry psycho” rant.
Are there problems out there with police? Yup. Is the means to deal with them perfect? Nope. But unlike many believe, it is there, and works as well as many other in Government or private industry.
I don’t necessarily agree with many trends in LE and think those can be rationally discussed. Key word is rationally.
“Thought you might like to read more info from the driver’s point of view. It does not make the cops look any better. In fact, it seems that the state police has been dragging their feet in this investigation, perhaps hoping this would all go away? I think not now with the video being released.”
I thought that was the same story, sorry. Growing up I had a lot of positive contact with cops. My best friends dad was one and is a great guy.
Since becoming an adult I have had limited contact with cops. Most of it negative. Things like taking 2 hours to respond to an active break in of my neighbors house. Another time taking 90 minutes to an attempted break in of my house. The cops in Central FL all seem to think they are better than everyone else. Seems cops are getting that way everywhere. They all want bigger guns, swat teams, armored cars, and so on.
Like most issues, there are extremes on either side. Just as there are bad cops and bootlickers, there are those out there that see cops as target practice.
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