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More News On al-Qaeda’s Woes In Iraq and Elsewhere
Strata-Sphere ^ | Monday, November 19th, 2007 at 11:59 pm | AJStrata

Posted on 11/21/2007 8:47:46 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The stories of al-Qaeda’s problems are starting to avalanche as Iraq turns the corner, causing a domino effect across the Muslim world in terms of al-Qaeda’s falling credibility and respect. The wave of good news is so strong I can only synopsize and link to the stories these days. So here we go:

Coalition forces keep rounding up al-Qaeda leaders as the leads from previous captures provide the intel to pick up other targets and gain more leads. al-Qaeda cannot hide among the populace of Iraq anymore which makes the whole process easier.

The other source of leads are the Iraqis themselves who are turning in weapons and bomb caches. Which in turn leads to the huge drop off in violence seen in Iraq. Another new statistic on the changing tide in Iraq is this tidbit: “And on Nov. 16, Iraq experienced just 33 terrorist incidents, he pointed out. “This is the lowest number of any attacks in a single day in Iraq in nearly three and a half years,” Smith said.”. Recall that there were long periods in October without combat deaths:

During a five-day stretch between October 19 and 23, there were no deaths among coalition forces. Although three US servicemen died from “non-hostile causes”, this was the longest period without combat deaths for nearly four years. And, between October 27 and 29, there were three more days without coalition deaths.

But back to the great news coming out of Iraq today. Another story highlights how concerned Iraqi citizens are leading US and Iraqi forces to large caches of very dangerous weapons:

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To: StarCMC; jveritas
From the sidebar of the LWJ:

'Islamic State of Iraq' leader arrested--
self-styled minister of oil--planned to attack oil targets

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Baghdad - Voices of Iraq

Wednesday , 21 /11 /2007  Time 7:44:42

 
 

Baghdad, Nov 20, (VOI) – Iraqi interior ministry forces arrested a leader in the self-styled 'Islamic State of Iraq' in Baghdad's northern district of Baiji, ministerial sources said on Tuesday.


"Security forces led by Salah al-Din police chief, Major General Hamad Namis, arrested the self-styled minister of oil in the 'Islamic State of Iraq,' Saadi Ibrahim, and found several plans for attacking Iraqi oil pipelines and fields in his possession," the director of the ministry's National Command Center, Staff Major General Abdul Kareem al-Kanani, told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
The forces seized 16 containers of nitric acid and arrested 16 other wanted men in the district, al-Kanani indicated.
According to al-Kanani, "Those arrested have confessed to committing crimes against innocent civilians and inciting violence."
Police forces will continue their efforts in purging Baiji's Gharb al-Jazira area of armed groups, which undermine security in the country, he added.

Baiji, one of the main districts of Salah al-Din province, lies 175 north of the Iraqi capital Baghdad.
 
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21 posted on 11/21/2007 11:18:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jveritas

Just read a bit of it....it’s a hoot....and we allowed the Irawi army to disband...what a farce....


22 posted on 11/21/2007 11:26:05 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: StarCMC
Seen this one from the BBC ?:

Is Iraq getting better?

Sunday, 11 November 2007, 00:35 GMT

By Jim Muir
BBC News, Baghdad

Neighbourhood guards pass US soldiers in Baghdad 10/11/2007
US forces have recruited thousands of young Iraqi men for local policing
Is Iraq getting better? The statistics say so, across the board.

Over the past three months, there has been a sharp and sustained drop in all forms of violence. The figures for dead and wounded, military and civilian, have also greatly improved.

All across Baghdad, which has seen the worst of the violence, streets are springing back to life. Shops and restaurants which closed down are back in business.

People walk in crowded streets in the evening, when just a few months ago they would have been huddled behind locked doors in their homes.

Everybody agrees that things are much better.

But is the improvement only skin deep? And will it last once the American troops, whose "surge" has clearly made a difference, begin to scale down?

In the past few days, two events have underlined big changes that have happened in recent months on both the Sunni and Shia sides of the Iraqi equation.

Reign of terror

US soldier beside poster of Moqtada al-Sadr - file picture
The Mehdi Army's influence is now much weaker

On Thursday, in a crowded public hall in the mainly Shia city of Karbala, south of Baghdad, the local police chief, Brig-Gen Ra'id Shaker Jawdat, bitterly denounced the Mehdi Army militia, accusing it of presiding over a four-year reign of terror there.

It was an extraordinary occasion. One by one, men and women stood up and screamed abuse at the militia, blaming it for killing and torturing their loved ones.

It could not have happened a few months ago, when the Mehdi Army - the military wing of the movement headed by the militant young Shia cleric, Moqtada Sadr - was the real power in the streets of Karbala.

A few days later, Moqtada Sadr ordered his followers to halt all forms of military action nationwide, even in self-defence.

That was a turning-point in Baghdad too. The number of bodies being found daily, dumped randomly in the city after being abducted, tortured and killed in sectarian reprisals, dropped from dozens a day to less than a handful.

Scenes of rejoicing

On Friday, near Samarra to the north of Baghdad, fighters from a Sunni faction called the Islamic Army in Iraq (IAI) launched a surprise attack on positions held by al-Qaeda in the area.

Police said the IAI killed 18 al-Qaeda militants and captured 16 others.

Shortly afterwards, another Sunni group known as the 1920 Revolution Brigades launched a similar operation against al-Qaeda at al-Buhriz in Diyala province, also north of Baghdad.

They captured 60 al-Qaeda suspects and handed them over to the Iraqi army, amidst scenes of rejoicing in the town's streets.

These also were events that simply could not have happened until recently.

Both the IAI and the 1920 Revolution Brigades used to be insurgent groups themselves, fighting alongside al-Qaeda against the multinational forces and Iraqi government troops.

Blow to militants

Members of Arab Jabour Awakening examine a knife belonging to a local resident as they provide security Baghdad (file photo)
Groups such as al-Sahwa are influential in Baghdad

Now, starting with the western al-Anbar province and spreading east to Baghdad and mainly Sunni areas to the north, there has been a gathering trend whereby Sunni tribes and nationalist groups have turned against al-Qaeda as their primary enemy.

The Americans have seized on the tactic, encouraging tribal and other Sunnis to form regional associations, such as al-Sahwa (The Awakening), as a vehicle for getting government and coalition support.

In the provinces, tribesmen joining up are paid $600 a month to protect their own areas against al-Qaeda.

The trend has spread deep into mainly Sunni districts of Baghdad, where al-Sahwa has filled the gap left by al-Qaeda.

American forces have recruited thousands of young men, who are given uniforms and $300 a month to act as neighbourhood guards (known in US military jargon as Concerned Local Citizens, or CLCs).

They apply in droves, as there are no other jobs in town.

US forces have moved into virtually every area and set up fixed positions. They have local mobile phone numbers emblazoned on their vehicles for the CLCs to call if they run into trouble.

This, combined with the way in which the US troop surge has proactively tackled any al-Qaeda presence it can detect, has dealt a massive blow to the Sunni militants.

Islamic State elements have disappeared - shops have reopened - my daughter can walk to school without wearing a headscarf
Baghdad resident

The Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri Maliki, is now openly claiming victory against al-Qaeda and its affiliates.

US military leaders are more cautious.

"There is no part of Baghdad in which al-Qaeda has a stronghold any more," said Brig-Gen Joseph Fil, commander of the Multinational Forces in Baghdad.

"But Baghdad is a dangerous place. Al-Qaeda, although on the ropes, is not finished by any means. They could come back swinging if they're allowed to, in fact, we've seen it," he added.

Bomb attacks rarer

US soldier patrols Baghdad market (file pic)
Markets in Baghdad are said to be booming now security is better

But there is no doubt that it has lost out massively in Baghdad.

One resident of the mainly-Sunni area of Dora, in the south of the capital, summed it up.

"The Islamic State in Iraq (the umbrella name adopted by al-Qaeda groups) used to control most of the area like a phantom presence. I know Shia shopkeepers who were shot dead in their shops."

"They put up notices warning people to wear strict Islamic dress. Everybody was frightened. When we called the police to report bodies on the street, they said it was a no-go area and they couldn't come."

"Now, the Islamic State elements have disappeared. Shops have reopened. My daughter can walk to school without wearing a headscarf. Some Shias who fled have come back. And most important of all, we haven't heard of anybody being killed since July."

The setback dealt to al-Qaeda and affiliates has had a knock-on effect in the Shia communities too.

The often massive, indiscriminate bomb attacks for which they were blamed, and which used to hit Shia areas on a daily basis, have now become a rarity.

The huge drop in bomb attacks has removed one of the main raisons d'etre for the Mehdi Army, the most active Shia militia in Baghdad.

Since neither the state nor the coalition forces had been able to stop the bomb attacks before, the Mehdi Army could pose as the only saviour of the Shias from slaughter at the hands of fanatical Sunni extremists.

Militia power

"They were on the streets every day, with guns, controlling and checking people," said a Shia resident.

"When there were attacks on Shia shrines, such as Samarra last year, they killed many Sunnis in the area in revenge."

"Now, they are much weaker. Many of the leaders have been arrested or killed by the Americans. Others have fled. Some are still around, but they are keeping a low profile."

The US military admit that around 13% of Baghdad - mainly parts of the huge eastern Shia suburbs, Sadr City, where the Mehdi Army used to hold undisputed sway - remain to be brought fully under control.

But the decision by Moqtada Sadr to order a freeze on militia action has removed political cover from Shia militants who resist, and who are now regarded as "rogue elements".

"When we go to the [Shia-dominated] Iraqi government with lists of militia leaders we want to get, they're very supportive," said Baghdad coalition forces commander Gen Fil.

This whole thing is so US-dependent - it's temporary security - the Mehdi Army are just biding their time
Baghdad Sunni resident

One problem is that the Americans and the Iraqi government cannot use the al-Sahwa ploy of recruiting local youths in Shia areas to mount guard against the Mehdi Army. It simply would not work.

Unlike al-Qaeda's situation in the Sunni areas, Shia leaders such as Moqtada al-Sadr enjoy considerable popular support among the Shia, even if elements of the militia have got well out of hand.

Some residents of Shia neighbourhoods are optimistic that another six months of sustained effort might see the militias off for good. Others are not so sure.

Massive challenges

US soldiers on patrol in Baghdad (file photo)
The US troop surge led to a sharp drop in US and Iraqi casualties

The huge problem in both Sunni and Shia areas is that continued success is desperately dependent on a continuing American presence, while the US is planning to start drawing down its forces next year.

"In my Sunni area, people are happy to see their sons defending the neighbourhood in an official way, because it's under an American umbrella," said one Sunni.

"That means they're not afraid that the Mehdi Army or another Shia militia will come through the lines and kill us."

The Iraqi Army and police have frequently been accused of either colluding with or turning a blind eye to the Shia militias, some of which have operated openly under the guise of official security formations.

We need federalism, but we also need a dictator, a strong powerful government - if we don't get the militia out, there will be no solution
Baghdad Shia resident

Especially among the Sunnis, there is little popular confidence in the Iraqi army, and much less, if any at all, in the police.

"Forget about the Iraqi police, they're either Mehdi Army in uniform or professional thieves, or both," said a Sunni living in a largely-Shia area.

"It bothers me that this whole thing is so US-dependent. It's temporary security. The Mehdi Army are just biding their time, and waiting to come back out and get back to business, extorting money from people, forcing them out of their homes and then renting them out. It's big business."

"I'm not optimistic about the surge, because of the sympathies of the Iraqi police and army towards the Mehdi Army," said a Shia from south-east Baghdad.

"It's an ironic situation, where we need federalism, but we also need a dictator, a strong powerful government. If we don't get the militia out, there will be no solution."

Purging the security forces of militia influence and sympathies is a huge task that needs a strong, neutral political will and a sustained effort.

There are many other massive challenges that will affect the outcome of the current struggle.

Need for reconstruction

Everybody agrees that military and security measures on their own can only go so far if not buttressed by economic, social and political progress.

The Americans and Iraqi government are well aware of the need to follow up with services - electricity and water supplies are still sporadic - and job-creation schemes if they are to hold the ground they are clearing.

Prime Minister Nouri Maliki has said that next year will be the year of services and reconstruction. At this stage, Iraqis are looking for performance and delivery, not promises and fine words.

One of the main stated objectives of the US troop surge was to clear a space for the Iraqi politicians to enact nation-building legislation and pursue national reconciliation as the cornerstone of the New Iraq.

But virtually none of the key pieces of required legislation has yet been passed by a fractious Iraqi parliament which has been wracked by factional disputes.

There is still no shared and agreed vision of Iraq's future. Kurds and some Shias want a loose, federal arrangement, while Sunnis and some others want a stronger, more centralised state.

It matters. To which Iraq are people signing up with the security forces swearing allegiance?

In the absence of progress at the top, the Americans are counting on developments and reconciliations at grass-roots levels, a "bottom-to-top" approach. How far that process can go at that level alone is an unanswered question.

Despite the progress in the security arena, the story is far from over. The casualty figures are down, but people are still being killed every day.

While things have improved greatly in Baghdad, inter-Shia power struggles in the south of the country remain intense, and insurgent activity continues strong around Mosul and Kirkuk in the north.

Nobody can underestimate the magnitude of the task ahead. And with the clock for US troop withdrawals ticking ever more loudly in Washington, it is a race against time.

But there can be no denying that many Iraqis, especially in Baghdad, are more optimistic now than they would have dared believe possible a year ago.

23 posted on 11/21/2007 11:32:07 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Even BBC reporters are admitting that things are improving. I listened to just such a report this morning. I’m sure good news from Iraq is causing tremendous gnashing of teeth among libs and leftists around the world.


24 posted on 11/21/2007 12:14:28 PM PST by driftless2
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To: jveritas
In other words he admits indirectly that Al Qaeda lost Iraq.

He no doubt takes comfort from the Leftists Appeasers in this country.

25 posted on 11/21/2007 1:09:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jveritas
Regarding Gen Scales comments yesterday:

The Left's Disjointed Logic On The Victory In Iraq

**************************EXCERPT*********************

Today we have this:

The figures are hard to estimate precisely but the process could involve hundreds of thousands of people. The numbers are certainly large enough, as we report today, for a mass convoy to be planned next week as Iraqis who had opted for exile in Syria return to their homeland.

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What will the excuses be now from the left?  As Wretchard at The Belmont Club writes, it a huge victory which the left just cannot abide by:

The current calm in Iraq represents not only a 'partial peace' but a huge victory. For the first time since Algeria at least, a Western army has defeated the combined efforts of a terrorist insurgency, a global radical Islamist attack and the intervention of two neighboring countries in less than five years. Al-Qaeda in Iraq made an explicit effort to precipitate a civil war in Iraq and failed. Syria backed the Sunni insurgency in its effort to restore dominance in Iraq and failed. Iran backed the Shi'ite militias, including the Special Groups and may be failing too. MNF-Iraq took on all comers in what amounted to a military randori and tossed them all out of the ring.  You can call that an ATM truce or you can call it something else.

It was recently fashionable to schedule screenings of the movie Battle of Algiers to impress upon Americans how hard and hopeless their task was. This movie should continue to be shown, but it may be ruined by flashing this card as the credits roll: "this is what happened to the French, and seemingly to every Western Army since the 1960s, even to the Israelis in Lebanon in the 1980s. But it didn't happen to the US in Iraq." That would certainly provoke outrage, perhaps because people accustomed to being handed a flagellant whip don't know what to do with a glass of champagne.
Before it was Harry Reid pronouncing the war lost, then it was a civil war, now what do they say? 

It's all Sadr's doing.

Or, as Tom Friedman writes, its just a truce for money.

Their Bush hatred runs so deep they just cannot be happy for an American victory in Iraq because that would mean Bush was right.  That we could win this thing. 

Expect to hear more of this disjointed logic in the days and weeks to come as the left tries to come to grips with things going well in Iraq.  Or, as history as shown us, they may just ignore Iraq all together now.

26 posted on 11/21/2007 3:27:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Allegra; Marine_Uncle

See post #26....


27 posted on 11/21/2007 3:28:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
...”Nobody told me Jihad was going to be like this”.

Sounds like they could use some R&R.


28 posted on 11/21/2007 3:40:24 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: All
More news:

Road From Damascus ~~ Iraqis are voting with their feet by returning home after exile
Times (UK) ^ | November 21, 2007 | staff

29 posted on 11/21/2007 3:59:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jveritas; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"...In other words he admits indirectly that Al Qaeda lost Iraq."
It is becoming very hard to admit otherwise. Only the fools at this point can deny what transformations have occured. Of course the fools are the ones we have to keep a close eye on. Since the concept of democracy/secular government is anti-thesis to Islam, obviously this battle will go on for a very long time. With millions of ill informed, poorly educated at best Islamist creeping around, one must at government levels kill them off, and make it so unpopular to even consider joining their ranks. Easier said then done in some parts of the world. But hells bells. The USA along with all those Coalition forces have literally won the good fight in Iraq at this point.
This insurgency will be over in far less time then what Petrous has suggested, simply because it no longer has the support of the people. Al Qaeda missed the boat on this one.
30 posted on 11/21/2007 6:18:29 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Agree 100%.


31 posted on 11/21/2007 6:39:58 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Their Bush hatred runs so deep they just cannot be happy for an American victory in Iraq because that would mean Bush was right. That we could win this thing.

Their hate toward President Bush is diabolical to say the least.

32 posted on 11/21/2007 6:41:32 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas
And we can with a bit of satisfaction, realize a number of us at this site and elsewhere did not give up hope but put our minds to the task of carefully analyzing from many sources what the probable outcome would be. The odds where obviously stacked against al Qaeda and the many radical Islamic support groups in Iraq.
Now, as they realize they where pretty much doped into participating on the wrong side, let us hope they extend this new knowledge into demanding their central as well as provincial governments treat all their citizens equally.
Once this process starts to unfold with no turning back, a full victory shall have been obtained.
Not only for America, Britain, and the whole willing Coalition, many nations strong, but for the whole Islamic world. The ramifications are great, as you must certainly can surmise.
33 posted on 11/21/2007 7:17:53 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Marine_Uncle
And we can with a bit of satisfaction, realize a number of us at this site and elsewhere did not give up hope but put our minds to the task of carefully analyzing from many sources what the probable outcome would be.

Yes many of us on this site did not lose hope and always believed in VICTORY because we have great trust in the military, the President, and also the majority of the Iraqi people.

34 posted on 11/21/2007 7:26:07 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

Amen to that.


35 posted on 11/21/2007 7:35:42 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: jveritas

And do have a content Thanksgiving day. Time to hit the rack for me.


36 posted on 11/21/2007 7:38:25 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter for POTUS)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Happy Thanksgiving to you and all your family.


37 posted on 11/21/2007 7:40:59 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas; Marine_Uncle
Happy Thanksgiving to both of you!
38 posted on 11/21/2007 7:59:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jveritas

Not only does it sound like he admits they lost in Iraq, but he is trying to convince others that they haven’t lost the rest of the world?? The tide has turned and a Tsunami is heading for AQ worldwide.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


39 posted on 11/21/2007 8:05:28 PM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You too my FRiend.


40 posted on 11/21/2007 8:14:02 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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