Coyote- if your world is th4e logic you tout- then truly I don’t wish to live there- You can live their with all your pretend facts all you like- The wedge strategy has absolutely nothign to do with ID and you know it-
A fewe facts are clear to anyone that isn’t blinded by dogma:
[[1) The Discovery Institute (with their fleet of lawyers, PR flaks, journalists and that poor lone poly sci major, along with their small gaggle of tame scientists) is the primary force behind ID.]]
Number one that isn’t even close to being true- There are ID scientists ALL over the world that do NOT belong to DI, and who have contributed much research to ID science- lie number one refuted
[[2) Their stated goals are theistic, not scientific.]]
Lie number 2 refuted- their goals are NOT theistic at all- they are logical- if a hypothesis like Macroevolution is dead, then OBVIOUSLY a more resonable SCIENTIFIC hypothesis NEEDS to be pursued- and ID fits that bill just fine scientifically
[[3) You are doing apologetics, not science.]]
Pot calling the Kettle Black if ever I did see one- You take goals of a MINOR institute amoung the science of ID and you pretend they are the end all be all of ID science, you post their goals which are Entirely scienctific, claim they are not, and give absolutely NO proof or rebuttle or explanation as to why they are not (Even though it’s obvious that there is absolutely nothing in those goals that is unscientific) and you continue to post irrelevent material such as insitutute’s statements of faith as thouigh those statements of faith somehow invalidate the sound and entirely valid science of ID being conducted all over hte world by competent and highly skilled scientists- You attempt to downplay using misleading tactics, and you NEVER EVER ceede the obvious fact that ID science is just that- a valid science- So please- enough with the false accusations of apologetics when you are so wallowing in it that you can’t see straight yourself!
[[You can huff and puff all you want but you can’t change any of that.]
There’s NOTHING to change- nothing! you can insinuate all day long- but nothign will change the fact that there is absolutely NOTHING unscientific about presenting an entirely plausible and FAR more reasonable and provable hypothesis that doesn’t have to rely on speculation and dogmatic assumptions as it’s basis like Macroevolution does for lack of evidence and for lack of logical reasonability
... You take goals of a MINOR institute amoung the science of ID and you pretend they are the end all be all of ID science, you post their goals which are Entirely scienctific [sic], claim they are not, and give absolutely NO proof or rebuttle [sic] or explanation as to why they are not (Even though it’s obvious that there is absolutely nothing in those goals that is unscientific) and you continue to post irrelevent material such as insitutute’s [sic] statements of faith as thouigh those statements of faith somehow invalidate the sound and entirely valid science of ID being conducted all over hte [sic] world by competent and highly skilled scientists- ...
Could you please list some of the major ID scientists who aren't affiliated with DI, and also the major ID research institutes?