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Huckabee Says Abortion Not for States
The Associated Press ^ | 11/18/07 | WILL LESTER

Posted on 11/18/2007 12:10:42 PM PST by dano1

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee rejects letting states decide whether to allow abortions, claiming the right to life is a moral issue not subject to multiple interpretations.

"It's the logic of the Civil War," Huckabee said Sunday, comparing abortion rights to slavery. "If morality is the point here, and if it's right or wrong, not just a political question, then you can't have 50 different versions of what's right and what's wrong."

"For those of us for whom this is a moral question, you can't simply have 50 different versions of what's right," he said on Fox News Sunday.

The former Arkansas governor, who has drawn within striking distance of Mitt Romney in Iowa's leadoff presidential caucuses, said he was surprised by the National Right to Life Committee's endorsement of Fred Thompson.

"But my surprise was nothing compared to the surprise of people across America who had been faithful supporters of right to life," said Huckabee, a conservative who is challenging Thompson's claim to the title.

"Fred's never had a 100 percent record on right to life in his Senate career. The records reflect that. And he doesn't support the human life amendment which is most amazing because that's been a part of the Republican platform since 1980," Huckabee said.

In a pre-recorded interview on ABC's "This Week," Thompson said Roe v. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court decision allowing legal abortion, should be overturned, with states allowed to decide individually whether to permit abortions.

"We need to remember what the status was before Roe v. Wade," Thompson said in the interview, taped Friday.

Huckabee also previewed his first television ad of the campaign on the program. The 60-second spot stars actor Chuck Norris, and is scheduled to begin running in Iowa on Monday.

"My plan to secure the border. Two words: Chuck. Norris," says Huckabee, who stares into the camera before it cuts away to show Norris standing beside him.

"Mike Huckabee is a lifelong hunter, who'll protect our Second Amendment rights," says the tough-guy actor, who takes turns addressing viewers.

"There's no chin behind Chuck Norris' beard, only another fist," Huckabee says.

"Mike Huckabee wants to put the IRS out of business," Norris adds.

"When Chuck Norris does a push-up, he isn't lifting himself up, he's pushing the earth down," Huckabee says.

"Mike's a principled, authentic conservative," says Norris.

In closing, Huckabee says: "Chuck Norris doesn't endorse. He tells America how it's going to be. I'm Mike Huckabee and I approved this message. So did Chuck."

Huckabee acknowledged that the ad probably won't change a lot of minds.

"But what it does do is exactly what it's doing this morning," he said. "Getting a lot of attention, driving people to our Web site, giving them an opportunity to find out who is this guy that would come out with Chuck Norris in a commercial."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; huckabee; illegals; immigration; prolife; thompson
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To: cinives
Answer this question - when a person murders another, which laws is he tried under - federal or state ? Why is abortion any different ?

All states must adhere to the basic protections of the God-given rights to life and liberty.

For any state to begin to legalize murder, or rape, or theft, or any number of other crimes which abrogate the unalienable rights of any of the poeple of this country, is to make the Constitution meaningless, a dead letter.

121 posted on 11/18/2007 2:05:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Our God-given rights, and those of our posterity, are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: SUSSA
it says nothing about the unborn.

By the way, the only way you can believe that is if you agree with the author of the Roe vs. Wade decision, Justice Blackman, that unborn babies are not persons.

122 posted on 11/18/2007 2:08:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Our God-given rights, and those of our posterity, are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: dschapin

The problem is that abortion is not defned as murder; if it was it could be stopped and prosecuted.


123 posted on 11/18/2007 2:08:48 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Jim 0216

In reading the US Constitution, which of the following more closely connects with something actually FOUND in that Constitution?

Choice A - Abortion should be available on demand due to privacy issues (as ruled in Roe vs. Wade).

Choice B - Abortion should be illegal in the US because of the 14th Amendment - the right to due process (and possibly the right of representation).

One involves something completely unrelated to the supposed Constitutional grounds used to decide, the other might be at least partially opened up to aligning with existing Amendment.

What screwed up courts we have.


124 posted on 11/18/2007 2:11:04 PM PST by TheBattman (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: cinives
One question, will Colorado be able to put a pregnant woman in jail for smoking or drinking while pregnant? If the unborn is defined as a person, then anything that the mother does that is unhealthy to the fetus may be held against her in a court of law. That would open up a big can of worms.
125 posted on 11/18/2007 2:14:58 PM PST by Timbo64
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To: EternalVigilance
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126 posted on 11/18/2007 2:15:55 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Gondring
Get clear on the difference between murder and the right to murder.
127 posted on 11/18/2007 2:19:09 PM PST by firebrand
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To: goldstategop

See post #91.

The right to life is not absolute. Think death penalty, for example, in addition to murder by self-defense. But in those cases, we don’t call it murder.


128 posted on 11/18/2007 2:19:33 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

The states were starting to make it legal.


129 posted on 11/18/2007 2:21:31 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Cobra64

Can you please explain to us the moral difference between a terrorist killing an innocent American citizen, and the abortionist brutally killing the unborn child?

The terrorists would have to blow up most of our major cities to approach the numbers of Americans killed since 1973 by the Planned Barrenhood ghouls and their enablers.


130 posted on 11/18/2007 2:22:03 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Our God-given rights, and those of our posterity, are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: dano1
"My plan to secure the border. Two words: Chuck. Norris," says Huckabee,

Yep, old Chuck Norris is going to single handily "secure the border". Great plan, Mike..

Goes to show how serious he takes this issue...NOT!

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131 posted on 11/18/2007 2:22:47 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (It's Illegal immigration, Stupid)
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To: EternalVigilance

As long as the states provide due process, then the feds leave it to the states, for the most part. The Constitution only addresses losing the right to life in the context of due process.


132 posted on 11/18/2007 2:23:24 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: EternalVigilance

See post #91.


133 posted on 11/18/2007 2:25:35 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Bump again.


134 posted on 11/18/2007 2:26:16 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Cobra64
Abortion is, before anything else, a finger in the eye of God. Every life belongs to Him, and those who take the lives of the innocent are going to have to answer to Him for that.

And, His protection of America can always be withdrawn.

"We have been assured, sir, in the sacred writings, that "except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel; we shall be divided by our little, partial, local interests, our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and a byword to future ages. And what is worse, Mankind may hereafter, from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Government by human wisdom, and leave it to chance, war and conquest. I therefore beg leave to move that henceforth Prayers, imploring Assistance in Heaven and Its Blessing on our deliverations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business; and that one or more clergy of this City be requested to officiate in that service." - Benjamin Franklin, Constitutional Convention, 1787. "

135 posted on 11/18/2007 2:28:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Our God-given rights, and those of our posterity, are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Morgan in Denver
What the US Constitution says is not always what the Supreme Court claims it says.

Precisely! As evidenced in Lawrence v. Texas, Kelo v. City of New London and of course Roe v. Wade, to name a few. All decided without precedent and with deference to international law rather than constitutional law.

Thanks for posting this. Did you go to Gutherie for the celebration this weekend?

No. I haven't gone to any festivals this year. In process of moving my father from Mississippi to Oklahoma.

I agree with your statement on the Fourteenth Amendment.

It was menat to cover blacks who were enslaved. If so, why did the change happen and what do we do about it?

The very thing our founders provided for; Impeachment of Federal Judges provides us with the means to check judicial activism and tyranny.

failure to utilize that, leads to the classic "Use it or lose it."

Regards
136 posted on 11/18/2007 2:28:56 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Timbo64

That already happens as “child endangerment” -

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E0DE1639F932A15754C0A960958260


137 posted on 11/18/2007 2:29:21 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: dufekin
First, while I should prefer that abortion be deemed murder at law, it is not. 'Murder', at law, is some degree of unlawful homicide. Abortion, sadly, is not unlawful, therefore your use of the term 'murder' is either A) simply careless, B) intentionally prejudicial, and/or C) a demonstration of willful ignorance. It is people like you who muddy the discussion and actually work to prevent the rule of Constitutional law.

If you say instead 'the homicide of unborn children', you are committing an egregious rhetorical fallacy, specifically, the assumption of your own conclusion. Until there is a determination, in law, of the 'start' of life -- not just differing opinions -- the term 'homicide', denoting as it does 'killing of a man (or human being)' is also inaccurate.

You are correct only in that the Framers could not possibly have anticipated the depths to which Americans of later days would sink.

You are perfectly welcome to your views on this or any subject. What is unwelcome is your, perhaps unwitting, effort to infuse your emotional viewpoint into law, and, frankly, your attempt to lecture (''you must understand'', as if I do not, for example).

There's little positive use for zealots of any stripe, particularly those who, just like the Left, pervert language to their own ends.

Ta-ta.

138 posted on 11/18/2007 2:29:26 PM PST by SAJ
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To: Cobra64
The right to live is the supreme liberty, and,"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759.
139 posted on 11/18/2007 2:29:52 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Our God-given rights, and those of our posterity, are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Just curious, should a woman who is pregnant bet put in jail for smoking, drinking, or doing any other activity that is harmful to the fetus?
140 posted on 11/18/2007 2:30:05 PM PST by Timbo64
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