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Paul Weyrich Comes Unglued
RedState ^ | Erik

Posted on 11/14/2007 8:45:14 AM PST by jaybeegee

I feel comfortable saying, based on conversations with NRLC members, that Jim Bopp's attack on Sam Brownback did not help the Romney team with the NRLC.

Paul Weyrich coming unglued and accusing Thompson of bribing NRLC for their endorsement is really not going to help Romney at the grassroots level.

Weyrich can say what he wants, but (a) it's not true and (b) it's not helpful. I would suggest that if they don't think Thompson is a threat, the Romney camp might not want to get bogged down on this. The latest poll numbers in Iowa and South Carolina are certainly not painting a pretty picture for the Thompson camp. But, this endorsement just might help.

[UPDATED:] I just got this punch thrown from the Thompson campaign into my inbox:

"Gov. Romney is new to the pro-life movement and his campaign clearly has a few things to learn about it. First, they should understand that despite their campaign's every effort, groups like the National Right to Life Committee's PAC (NLRC-PAC) cannot be bought. NLRC-PAC is supporting Fred Thompson because of Fred's 100% pro-life voting record. They know he stood with them yesterday, he stands with them today, and he will stand with them tomorrow. It is unseemly for the Romney campaign and its supporters to suggest that NLRC-PAC's coveted endorsement is based on a bribe. Second, this unfounded accusation is as outrageou s as it is ironic, given the Romney campaign's long history of spreading money around to anyone who will take it."
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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; elections; fred; fredthompson; mitt; mittromney; nrlc; prolife; prolifevote; romney; thompson; weyrich
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To: mbraynard
"Pro-life voters will make up their own minds on who to support" (mbraynard @ #3).

"[R]ight-to-life voters can’t make up their own mind on a candidate" (mbraynard @ #30).

Contradictory posts are less obvious when they appear on different threads ...
41 posted on 11/14/2007 11:43:32 AM PST by eastsider
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42 posted on 11/14/2007 11:44:00 AM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: mbraynard

>>This endorsement is really no big deal. It means they give Thompson no more than $5000 or so.

Pro-life voters will make up their own minds on who to support<<

It generated a lot press at a time when Fred has not seemed to be speaking as well as a lot of had hoped. So in that sense I think its a bigger than the money.


43 posted on 11/14/2007 11:45:13 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Never heard of him.


44 posted on 11/14/2007 11:50:42 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jaybeegee

Weyrich has lost it. Time for a changing of the guard....


45 posted on 11/14/2007 11:52:39 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: LadyNavyVet

Exactly. And Romney is not responding here.

And note that a few weeks back Fred made the statement that Romney was attempting to ‘buy’ SC, and note more importantly that Romney did not respond.

I am inclined to believe that people in SC came forward to the Fred campaign and told them of Romney’s bribery attempts. Certainly the ARG poll of late September was bought and paid for.


46 posted on 11/14/2007 11:59:47 AM PST by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Prokopton; mbraynard; Beagle8U

(mbraynard)
“Besides, the state organization in IA endorsed Willard. “

“That would be great for FDT, except the IA organization endorsed Romney.”


Someone is making stuff up:

The Iowa Independent by: Lynda Waddington
Tuesday (11/13) at 11:25 AM

“National Right to Life became the first national grassroots organization to issue a formal endorsement in the Republican presidential contest Tuesday morning when they put their support behind former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson.”

“Iowa Right to Life and the other 49 state affiliate organizations now have a choice to make. They can either support the national organization’s endorsement of Thompson or they can remain neutral. Lehman said the decision from the Iowa group will be forthcoming in the next few weeks, but stopped short on speculating where the members might fall.

“I really think it will come down to a majority vote,” she said. “I have no idea because we live in a caucus state. In a caucus state, everyone is pretty active in politics and so, typically, board members work and volunteer for their choice of pro-life candidates on an individual basis. So, I don’t know where people are on their individual support of candidates.

“I think at this point — as close as we are to the caucuses — [the decision] is not going to be on a personal decision level. It’s going to be on a practical level on being able to take the executive branch in the final election. So, it’s going to be an interesting discussion.”

Haus said he was aware of the discussions that would now take place within the state organization, but rejected use of the word lobby when it came to how those decision makers would be approached.”

http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=F8C7928414B74F04D305BFDE664837FC?diaryId=1452


47 posted on 11/14/2007 12:01:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: ansel12; Jim Robinson

Post 47 is very interesting!


48 posted on 11/14/2007 12:04:01 PM PST by Petronski (Congratulations C.C. Sabathia - A.L. Cy Young 2007)
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To: ansel12
Someone is making stuff up
Contradiction and fiction seem to be the Romney supporters' M.O. How apt.

Speaking of apt, who has that cartoon of Romney with the multiple mouths?

49 posted on 11/14/2007 12:08:06 PM PST by eastsider
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To: mbraynard; Politicalmom; Josh Painter; ejonesie22; papasmurf; Bobbisox
"This endorsement is really no big deal. It means they give Thompson no more than $5000 or so.
Pro-life voters will make up their own minds on who to support - and any of them can come up with reasons to support any R who is running. And they will. Endorsements from a faceless group like this (albiet a very helpful group to The Cause) do not carry much weight with voters as much as, say, an endorsement from an actual person who is a leader in the movement (like Henry Hyde or Schlafly or something like that)."

Talk about "whistling past the graveyard" with your comment. You say that an individual endorsement is more important than a group with chapters in ALL 50 states (3,000 to be exact) with MILLIONS of members and supporters. This will likely be the turning point in the race for the White House, but you say it doesn't carry much weight? I'll bet if Huckabee or Romney had garnered their support that you'd be singing a different tune!! LOL Where did you get the idea that they can only contribute $5,000, btw? Do you know how valuable it will be for all those volunteers to be working for Fred between now and the primaries?

50 posted on 11/14/2007 12:09:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: Coldwater Creek
Fred Smith = Federal Express

99% of people don't know who the heck Fred Smith is. Everyone knows this organization.

51 posted on 11/14/2007 12:09:40 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Petronski
Bushel, hell...


52 posted on 11/14/2007 12:14:57 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: mmichaels1970

The article left a lot of marks on Romney. He needs some first aid...


53 posted on 11/14/2007 12:17:35 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: mbraynard; All
Hey, M, maybe you can help me put, since no one else on Team Mitt seems to either know or want to discuss it. I also saw were you have worked with NRTL also, so you maybe the one to come to on this.

Any idea about the content of the Conversation between Jim Bopp and Mitt the day this broke. I am sure Mitt was a bit “let down” and the campaign never failed to use “James Bopp” and “National Right to Life” in a sentence. I mean he is/was a team member and all...

54 posted on 11/14/2007 12:22:05 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

“There are thousands and thousands of Fed Ex employee’s.
Fred Smith is a national figure in case you didn’t know.”


When I worked for Brown & Root and other giant corporations, I didn’t care who the CEO was or anything about his life.

To compare employees of giant businesses to dedicated volunteer activists, that join an organization to further a political or moral cause, s ridiculous.


55 posted on 11/14/2007 12:24:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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To: jaybeegee
"Gov. Romney is new to the pro-life movement and his campaign clearly has a few things to learn about it. First, they should understand that despite their campaign's every effort, groups like the National Right to Life Committee's PAC (NLRC-PAC) cannot be bought. NLRC-PAC is supporting Fred Thompson because of Fred's 100% pro-life voting record. They know he stood with them yesterday, he stands with them today, and he will stand with them tomorrow. It is unseemly for the Romney campaign and its supporters to suggest that NLRC-PAC's coveted endorsement is based on a bribe. Second, this unfounded accusation is as outrageou s as it is ironic, given the Romney campaign's long history of spreading money around to anyone who will take it."

OUCH!

Anyone got a cold compress for Gov. Romney...

56 posted on 11/14/2007 12:24:27 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: ansel12
To compare employees of giant businesses to dedicated volunteer activists, that join an organization to further a political or moral cause, s ridiculous.

Always consider the source in assessing all things...

57 posted on 11/14/2007 12:26:30 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: ejonesie22
You should read the rest of the FDT's Press Release:
If the Romney campaign is looking for the reason they did not receive the NRLC-PAC endorsement, they can start with the fact that Gov. Romney was pro-choice just two years ago. They should also consider the fact that Gov. Romney's own health care plan in Massachusetts offers taxpayer funded abortions for a mere $50 co-pay and requires by law that a representative from Planned Parenthood sit on the MassHealth advisory board. Tellingly, Gov. Romney made no such requirement for a representative from the pro-life movement.

The Romney campaign was clearly hoping for this endorsement and are now clearly upset. But being denied an endorsement is no excuse to impugn the integrity of the very organization they were just days ago trying to woo.


58 posted on 11/14/2007 12:27:13 PM PST by eastsider
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To: jaybeegee
Zing!: Gov. Romney is new to the pro-life movement

Let's give Mitt Romney eight years to contemplate whether or not he wants to be pro-life. After President Thompson leaves office, if Mitt has managed not to flop-flip back to being a liberal on this issue, then he can be considered for the job.

59 posted on 11/14/2007 12:35:47 PM PST by MitchellC (7 DAYS AWAY! Give Fred the support he needs - www.FredsGivingDay.com - Thanksgiving Eve)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you sir. Great response to the dismissivness of this article. The campaign could not put a dollars amount on this endorsement, in that it involves volunteers from all 50 states.


60 posted on 11/14/2007 12:42:21 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN "LAZY " GRANDMA FREEPER, and a LOYAL and DEDICATED FredHEAD!)
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