Posted on 11/13/2007 11:13:48 AM PST by pissant
The American electorate is a fickle mistress. Just ask former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.).
When Thompson announced his candidacy for president just after Labor Day most national polls showed him running a close second behind former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and the majority of state polls had him in the top three.
No longer. Thompson's campaign has yet to take off as expected and voters -- especially in crucial early states like Iowa, New Hampshire and Florida.
The most recent data comes from New Hampshire where two surveys were released over the weekend. The first, conducted by theUniversity of New Hampshire for the Boston Globe, put Thompson in sixth (yes, SIXTH) place with just three percent of the vote. (Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led the way with 32 percent.) In a Marist University poll Thompson again took sixth place with just five percent support. To be clear, Thompson was never a frontrunner in New Hampshire but polls conducted in the run-up to his announcement and just after he formally entered the race show him regularly polling in double digits.
Thompson's shrinking support is apparent in other early states as well. The last three polls taken in Iowa put Thompson in fourth, fifth and fourth place, respectively, and his high water mark in any of those surveys is 11 percent. In Florida, too, Thompson appears to be fading. A new poll conducted for the Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times showed Thompson in fifth place (eight percent) behind Giuliani (36 percent), Romney (19 percent), Arizona Sen. John McCain (12 percent) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (nine percent).
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You can always bet on that...
Since you posted those claims, it remains to be seen whether ANY of it is true. Some of it might be, but only by coincidence.
This is exactly what I find so distasteful, that some (many?) evangelicals support Huckabee over Thompson. Huckabee may very well be a decent Christian, but he’s definitely NOT conservative.
***I find it distasteful as well. Except, of course, that I think they should be supporting the acknowledged evangelical conservative in the race, Hunter. Thompson is probably not a christian, and certainly has let it be known to Dobson that he “won’t dance to his tune”. I’m a Dobson fan, and I hope that Dobson endorses Hunter.
What kind of country will we ultimately have if it comes down to which side can best use the power of the federal government to squash its opposition?
***I agree completely. Less government is the answer regardless of who is in charge, democrap or republican.
Except SS is not an entitlement. I know what you mean, but don’t give the Dems any ideas. I want my money, because it is supposed to come back to me, not to some welfare family, I already paid that bill...
Only one (non-insane, yes I'm talking to you, Ron Paul) candidate is promoting that, and it's Fred Thompson.
Sorry if it's already been posted.
They fear him for the same reasons you do.
Huck is a preacher and can speak a good line. However, Huck's actual record is one of worshiping at the alter of State power. Huck's record indicates that his social spending would make Bush's look conservative. Huck is NOT at all a real conservative. He is a charlatan
Well, actually I do something few fredheads do. I research before I post.
So far I only know who I won't vote for. I'm still hopeful about Fred and Duncan.
Truly.
I don't even bother much anymore to claim that I was hopeful about Fred early-on, but I was. Early to skepticism, I admit, but still hopeful in the beginning.
It is a bitter time for those who have invested all their hopes with Fred and repressed all doubts. I guess that that is a proper thing to do when you are preparing for battle. The battlefield -- either military or politcal -- is no place for second guessing.
Still it is not much fun when you have chosen your candidate, put him on a pedestal, and gone to war for him, and then reality starts to batter you. I've already trod the path from hopeful about Fred, to disappointed, to angry in my disappointment. I really should do better at being gentle to those who are somewhere else along on that path.
It does take a lot of work to spin and distort. Been taking lessons from the Romney camp?
Huckabee outpolls Fred, and NRTL picked Fred over Huckabee because the polls showed Fred ahead of him.
I still think Fred is better than Huckabee, but nobody cares what I think — it’s what the voters decide when they go to the polls.
If you could point out one distortion, you might help your cause.
It’s not a poll.
***I agree. Again.
The data are not interchangeable with polling data.
***The data is BETTER THAN polling data.
The numbers reported are not percentages.
***Yes they are. Asked & answered on another post.
What you are doing is misleading.
***No. Prediction markets are better at predicting than MSM polling. That is not misleading. There are examples where both polls and Markets got things wrong, but there are a lot more examples where the polls get it wrong than the prediction markets. It serves as a data point for people to consider when choosing a candidate.
The Fred followers liked InTrade when he was the leader, but they don’t like it now.
Fred Takes Lead on InTrade!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1842292/posts
Just go back to the laughable “flier” you keep linking. I’ve already shown how it is filled with distortions and an outright lie — and by using an official campaign logo on it, it reflects poorly on Hunter himself, who has no part of it.
“I don’t want Huckabee to be the nominee, because I don’t want Bush III. On the other hand, I don’t think he’s evil”
Evil? No......whore and a liar, yes. He is open borders, and now professes to want to stop it? A Whore? A Liar?
You decide.
Uh, not at this point. The markets are too thin, the results too easy to manipulate.
The smell of fear is thick with you.
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