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France is top intelligence provider on Iran: US lawmaker
AFP ^ | 11/09/07 | AFP

Posted on 11/11/2007 7:32:49 PM PST by Pikamax

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To: Pikamax
Asked if the US administration's warnings about Iran's alleged secret nuclear weapons program should be believed, Tausche said: "You shouldn't, you should believe the French."

The lawmaker added that on Wednesday, after meeting with President George W. Bush, French "President (Nicolas) Sarkozy was totally unambiguous about Iran, and (said) that there was reason to be concerned about (its) ambitions."

Can anybody explain the above contradiction? Or is this just typical AFP confusion?

21 posted on 11/11/2007 7:54:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Perdogg

Exactly. I have met Tauscher on a few occasions and was amazed at her ignorance. Was this a deliberate “outing” of France to ensure their intel sources would be cut off?


22 posted on 11/11/2007 7:55:18 PM PST by Apparatchik
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To: Pikamax

Believable...considering our main intelligence agency would rather (and is mainly bound by law to) gather intelligence via the Library of Congress and satellites. Nothing like boots on the ground.


23 posted on 11/11/2007 7:57:18 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: MarkL

Yes, after WWII...some very old timers warned America of the communist in this country and what’d that outcome would be. That’s what we’re seeing today...that outcome. They were right on the money. We’ve been infiltrated with a bunch of commie traitors...they hate America, they hate freedom...


24 posted on 11/11/2007 7:57:32 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Apparatchik

Very well indeed. I think its an incandescandt but who the hell knows?


25 posted on 11/11/2007 7:58:53 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

>> Can’t these idiots button their lips!!! Geesh!!

Punishing France for voting Sarkozy to power?


26 posted on 11/11/2007 8:01:35 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: shield
No they will NOT. The USA will do the dirty work...Israel will sit out of this one. That can be counted on. If we hit Iran...it’ll be France and USA.

Care to lay some cash on that?

27 posted on 11/11/2007 8:02:38 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Ditto.


28 posted on 11/11/2007 8:03:57 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Pikamax

[ http://www.readyayeready.com/posters/loose-lips-sink-ships.jpg ]


29 posted on 11/11/2007 8:06:07 PM PST by billmor
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To: Pikamax

Democrat Ellen Tausche needs her tongue ripped out while she’s waiting for the gallows.


30 posted on 11/11/2007 8:10:39 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: MindBender26

I expect ALL of her DemboTard lips are loose. >:-(


31 posted on 11/11/2007 8:14:37 PM PST by DGHoodini (+ +)
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To: txflake

Israel will NOT attack Iran. Israel can not afford the backlash...we’ll do it...Bush’ll not let ‘em...hide and watch...Besides, France is itching to get into that fight....and they are fine warriors.


32 posted on 11/11/2007 8:16:03 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Pikamax

Yet another example of why Democrats CANNOT be trusted with National Security matters. Their lips are as loose as their reasoning, genitalia, and anal orifices.


33 posted on 11/11/2007 8:21:04 PM PST by DGHoodini (+ +)
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To: shield

French fine warriors??? IDK... Sarkozy notwithstanding, I find that hard to believe...

French rifle for sale, never fired, dropped once...


34 posted on 11/11/2007 8:31:30 PM PST by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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Yes, they are. Lots of the military were extremely disappointed France wasn’t part of our Iraq invasion. They spoke of what fine warriors they are.


35 posted on 11/11/2007 8:34:16 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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Israel can afford the backlash for taking out a multi-billion dollar reactor in Syria but doesn't have the ass to take out the same in Iran?

Why do you say this?

36 posted on 11/11/2007 8:41:57 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: txflake

Iran is completely different than Syria. Syria was heading to hit Israel. Israel had to get permission to hit Syria from us. It took months to finally get the permission. It took commandos entering Syrian territory and bringing back radioactive proof before we’d give ‘em permission. Now...what can Israel do to convince us to let them hit Iran? Nothing...If we weren’t in Iraq or the ME...that’d be a different situation. It’d be hard to put up US aircraft and block Israeli aircraft...if we weren’t there. We’ll not be out of Iraq for years. If we hit Iran since it’d be most likely a night attack...then Israel could look like us and be part of those attacks. No one would ever know as in Syria who really hit ‘em.


37 posted on 11/11/2007 8:52:18 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield
then Israel could look like us and be part of those attacks.

Right you are. The IDF is more acrobatic/proficient in the area than we are, since they live and thus drill there.

38 posted on 11/11/2007 9:08:21 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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French fine warriors??? IDK... Sarkozy notwithstanding, I find that hard to believe... French rifle for sale, never fired, dropped once...

I know such quips are adored by some here on FR (although that has dropped after Sarkozy won the election), but the truth of the matter is that the French are, and have always been, fine warriors. What has always let them down, particularly in the recent past (recent being WW2 onwards) is leadership. They ahve been plagued by a sporadic outbreak of weak-kneed leaders. However the French fighting man is not what is commonly portrayed (a cheese-loving peacenik eager to get home to his mommy before soiling his 3-day stale underpants).

And this has been proved again and again ( even after the WW2 era) across several continents (most recently being Afghanistan, something that many people forget even though the French have been there from day one, and still are), to across several conflict zones (e.g. a couple in Africa). And when their leadership do not get in the way the French military can be quite un-PC (e.g.when the French intelligence service blew up a GreenPeace ship - the RainBow Warrior - that was protesting against its nuclear tests and had gotten too close. I believe it was the divers that attached limpet charges to the ship).

And the French intelligence services have been helping the US since before 9/11, and after (even during the whole 'freedom fries' rhetoric). While the politicians in France were acting the fool, and here O'Reilly was calling for wine boycotts, according to reports the French intel services and their American counterparts never broke contact. And you have to consider that French intel has a robust HUMINT element to their intel (i.e. human intelligence), as opposed to our primarily SIGNINT elements (signal intelligence, which can be deceived by a nation that has a strong intention to ....for lack of time i will not go deep into this, but do a search on how India managed to hide their nuclear test preparations for the CIA by simply knowing when the satellites were passing overhead, and how the CIA found out that tests had been done by hearign reports on CNN about seismic movements in that area). Other countries like Russia have a strong HUMINT intel in some of those 'prime' areas, but the thing about the Russians is that they are not that trustworthy in terms of intent and information veracity.

Anyways, it gives some a warm feeling to see the French as simply vichy cowards, but the good thing is that the real powers that be realize that all the names in the blogosphere do not change the way things truly are.

But hey, I hear that French Leclerc Main Battle Tanks have 1 gear for going forward and 6 for reverse .....and similar nonsense

39 posted on 11/11/2007 9:23:26 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Perdogg

Way to put that out there lady!

Invested in defeat they are


40 posted on 11/11/2007 9:24:23 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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