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Vanity, We've all decided; You're not allowed to Smoke!
Nov. 9, 2007 | Bowtie52

Posted on 11/10/2007 8:15:04 PM PST by Bowtie52

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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 11/10/2007 9:31:57 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: saganite; SheLion
"...The trend is moving toward eventually outlawing tobacco. I don’t see anything in the offing to stop the trend..."

It'll be great! Outlaw tobacco! Prohibition on alcohol worked so good that it put the Mafia in business, big-time!

After alcohol was re-legalized, the ban on the other drugs was stepped-up, and has proved to be an outstanding success - for mobsters!

Lessee, a 'speakeasy' was a place where one went to enjoy the pleasures of and consume illegal alcohol. A 'crack-house' today is a place where one can do illegal drugs.

What do we call the place where the 'illegal tobacco' is enjoyed in the future? A 'greenhouse'? .................................... FRegards

22 posted on 11/10/2007 9:34:02 PM PST by gonzo (My Mother never understood the irony of calling me a 'son-of-a-bitch' ...)
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To: Bowtie52
"Congress is supposed to be responsible TO THE PEOPLE, not the other way around! A choice needs to be made. With the technological advances being made today in personal surveillance and personal information retrieval, a line must be drawn somewhere before American’s become robotic extensions of Congressional will."

I agree!!! Time we had a Smoke-In! There are so many trip wires on so many issues its a toss-up which one will spark the revolt.

23 posted on 11/10/2007 9:34:07 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Oh, I think that a time will come (likely sooner rather than later) where punitive taxes passed on tobacco products will reach a point of diminishing returns - and at such a point it would be far more profitable for the government to simply sieze the assets of those who would produce, distribute, or consume tobacco products.

I could be wrong - I certainly hope I am.


24 posted on 11/10/2007 9:49:28 PM PST by Ursine_East_Facing_North
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To: saganite
The trend is moving toward eventually outlawing tobacco. I don’t see anything in the offing to stop the trend. I’ll continue to enjoy my cigars as long as possible.

Then who is going to make up the difference?????

25 posted on 11/10/2007 10:15:39 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Lawgvr1955
I get so tired of the "its for the children" tag politicians put on everything.

Yea, me too!


26 posted on 11/10/2007 10:18:40 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Lawgvr1955
I get so tired of the "its for the children" tag politicians put on everything.

Yea, me too!


27 posted on 11/10/2007 10:18:40 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: SheLion

The taxpayer. Don’t tell me you didn’t know that?


28 posted on 11/10/2007 10:19:54 PM PST by saganite
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 11/10/2007 10:21:54 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Bowtie52

There are those who hate cigarette smokers and who are proto-fascist when it comes to others not toeing the line of their own peculiar form of moral codex. You’ll meet them. They’re tolerable in a forum, but if you’d meet them in a dark alley, keep your hand on the safety.


30 posted on 11/10/2007 10:23:14 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Bowtie52
Just in time for holiday giving ...

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31 posted on 11/10/2007 10:24:38 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: saganite
The taxpayer. Don’t tell me you didn’t know that?

Listen, I have been fighting this for over 15 years. Are you being a smart aze to me?

Darlene Brennan - The Smoker's Club, Inc. - New England Regional Director
The United Pro Choice Smokers Rights Newsletter - http://www.smokersclubinc.com
Maine Smokers Rights - http://www.geocities.com/shelioness/mainerights.html
mailto:darlene@maine.rr.com - Respect Freedom of Choice!

32 posted on 11/10/2007 10:30:53 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Bowtie52
"Cigarettes as well, were to sustain a .50 to $1.50 per pack increase. Ostensibly, this tax was to fund a health care package for children."

Why should cigarette smokers pay for a health care package for "children".

Why not just tax Democrats/ left wing lunatics and the parents of these "children" who want this health care package instead?

If taxing smokers is constitutional, then taxing Democrats is too.

33 posted on 11/10/2007 10:31:14 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Thumper1960
Ban Damage

The killings of smokers.

Deaths, Injuries, Rape, and more!

34 posted on 11/10/2007 10:38:03 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Bowtie52

You’re not allowed to smoke...........except Marijuana.


35 posted on 11/10/2007 10:43:03 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: SheLion

The hate that antis direct towards smokers will backfire. Push the smoker too far and an unequal, opposite reaction will occur.


36 posted on 11/10/2007 10:46:56 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Ursine_East_Facing_North
"Oh, I think that a time will come (likely sooner rather than later) where punitive taxes passed on tobacco products will reach a point of diminishing returns -"

A pack of cigarettes costs $11.25 in Canada. I don't see any "diminished returns" happening there. I do see poor people even poorer, and in poorer health because they have to eat cheaper, crappy food in order to afford that pack of cigarettes.

But you won't see the tobacco Nazi's in Canada acknowledging that they are actually killing these people faster through excess taxation. They claim instead it's to pay for their health care.

Stalin is alive and well in Canada, and has his foot well in the door in the USA as well.

37 posted on 11/10/2007 10:47:04 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: BnBlFlag
"You’re not allowed to smoke...........except Marijuana.

Smoking ONE joint is the equivalent to smoking an entire pack of cigarettes. That's what the anti-smoking people say, so by golly it's true. It's no wonder pot heads cough out a lung every time they pass a joint around. They hack away, tears coming from their eyes, and say (Hack, wheeze, cough)"good chit man". HACK! COUGH COUGH! "yah dude, good chit".

38 posted on 11/10/2007 10:51:36 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Thumper1960
I wish I could believe Huckabee to be a good candidate for Pres., his call for a national ban on smoking is downright ridiculous, and telling. Nanny-state, anyone?

I don't smoke, can't stand it, don't think it's wise, but I can't see any justification for banning it or essentially taxing it out of existance except greed and/or tyranny. Life is awful short to be legislating folks from such an activity.

39 posted on 11/10/2007 10:52:41 PM PST by elk
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To: Thumper1960
"The hate that antis direct towards smokers will backfire. Push the smoker too far and an unequal, opposite reaction will occur."

Yeah right. Just like those fierce smokers in Canada did, right? They rose up, hacking and coughing, and stormed the government offices, seizing them until all tobacco taxes were removed... Well, they wanted too, but couldn't afford the bus fare.

The government knows they can tax you as much as they want on cigs, and you will do nothing but bitch and moan about it.

40 posted on 11/10/2007 10:57:17 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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