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Most Affordable Places To Live Well (Ten Most Affordable Cities)
Forbes ^ | 6 November 2007 | Matt Wolsey

Posted on 11/10/2007 4:58:04 PM PST by shrinkermd

Triple-digit monthly parking fees, $12 movie tickets, clogged intersections and weekly grocery bills that rival some mortgage payments. Welcome to life in the Big Apple. And Los Angeles. And Chicago.

But, it's possible to enjoy such amenities without the hassles. Step one? Look for more affordable spots that offer a similar or better quality of life, and where the dollar goes far.

The Cities are:


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: affordable; cities; topten
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To: shrinkermd
The chief criteria used in the selection were: housing affordability, cost of living index and best cultural, arts and sports.

Maybe. But the current criteria seems to be “ex-rust-belt” bucket cities.

61 posted on 11/10/2007 5:51:17 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: P8riot

She has a job / house combo that’s GUD. She needs to move or get a new job, quite simply.


62 posted on 11/10/2007 5:51:32 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

I’m crackin up. You have a real distorted sense of the world. In a city it can take an ambulance 15 minutes to go five miles. Smooth sailing here.


63 posted on 11/10/2007 5:53:03 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ReignOfError

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So, live in Cobb or Gwinnett. Just don’t work towards Atlanta. Drive sideways.


64 posted on 11/10/2007 5:53:14 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: x_plus_one

lol I saw this posted on the other related thread.... Is it that bad? I am north of Nashville. Nashville is ok and all but I prefer my little small town. The schools in Nashville are horrible though.


65 posted on 11/10/2007 5:54:50 PM PST by meanie monster
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To: shrinkermd

No. No! NO! Texas is full. We have no vacancies. Everything is sky high here. We burn carbon on our BBQ pits and eat animals. You liberals best move elsewhere.


66 posted on 11/10/2007 5:54:55 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: OCC

The Cincy riots in Spring 2001 are what made me a dedicated FReeper. The coverage here was amazing.

Not much came of it, from a national perspective, due to 9/11 coming so soon (relatively) afterwards. But not a good event.


67 posted on 11/10/2007 5:56:51 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: CindyDawg

You are absolutely right. And it’s too hot to breathe. Oh, and don’t forget we’re full of fire ants, killer bees and rattlesnakes. Only a fool would move here.


68 posted on 11/10/2007 5:57:47 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: frankjr

Yeah, those cities are like ghost towns... /sarc


69 posted on 11/10/2007 6:00:08 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

We moved from Miami to Knoxville, Tenn 10 years ago. I loved Miami, but it was no place to raise a family. Knoxville is a great small city with mountains and lakes galore. Nice 2000 square foot homes for $ 100,000, and Nashville and Atlanta within 3 hours. Also, Tenn is a conservative state with no income tax. We love it here!


70 posted on 11/10/2007 6:00:25 PM PST by Desparado
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To: shrinkermd

“One dead in Minneapolis barbecue shooting”

http://www.startribune.com/10241/story/1542528.html


71 posted on 11/10/2007 6:00:35 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I moved here in the Summer of 2002. I live downtown across from P&G. The City is a ghost town after 6pm.


72 posted on 11/10/2007 6:03:04 PM PST by OCC
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To: shrinkermd
Well..first off it's PittsburgH..with an H on the end...but that's nitpicking, prolly just a typo since I didn't see a list in the presentation.

That said...Pittsburgh is a cesspool of socialism. Empty storefronts all over downtown. The public tranisit system is - and has been - on the verge of collapse. The workers are some of the most - if not the most highest paid or benefitied in the country.

Pittsburgh International(?) Airport... isn't... with USAirways cutting flights almost daily and PIA costs going skyward in proportion.

A lot of the blue collar work force sits around the local watering holes waiting for The Steel Industry to return and blaming the Republicans for that not happening.

Democrats and unions have ruled this town for over 50 years and the same political machine keeps getting re-elected. You can't reason with these moonbats...they actually LIKE things the way the are as long as they get a bone from the state, county or local government every so often.

Oh...did I mention the deer? Western PA has one of the highest deer/vehicle collision rates in the country. I just put a $500 deer/push bar and extra lights on the front of my Durango because of the many close calls I've had...almost nightly.

The weather SUCKS in the winter and because of that the heating costs are VERY high. Housing is affordable because most of the neighborhoods are aging with houses over 1 hundred years old. That means little if any insulation or weatherproofing. Plus a lot - mine included - are constructed in such a way as to prohibit or severely limit the amount of insulating/weatherproofing that can be done effectively.

Taxes...oh WHERE to begin?! Taxes are constantly going up and will continue for the foreseeable future. My house - essentially a hundred and some year old shack - is valued at over $120k plus I have a spare lot for a side yard that adds more. I'm looking at around $4-5k a year just in property taxes. Add to that county and local taxes plus income and sales tax. Even so most of the demograhic here thinks taxes should be RAISED because they're on fixed income and figure the non-existant (here) younger generation should foot the bills.

After living here for 58 years and raising three great kidz and now helping with the next generation, I'm calling it quits. I'e been looking for FReeperville for quite some time. I still haen't found it,but I suspect it's either in the Carolinas or Texas.

Yo no habla espanol, so Texas is probably out...and as far as the Carolinas..Whatever happened to Mayberry, like the one they used to have on TV?

Finally...the state was looking for a new slogan a year or so ago. All of my suggestions wer rejected including but not limited to: Pennsylvania...just a short drive to West by God Virginia; Pennsylvania...we're all leaving so there's room for YOU; or my personal favorite...Pennsylvania...for the love of God...WHY..dear Lord WHY?

prisoner6

73 posted on 11/10/2007 6:03:29 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: ops33

LOL! I lived in Edmond from 1977 until 1989. Back then it was a beautiful small town. I visited in 2001 and didn’t recognize a thing. Still have very pleasant memories of Edmond and OKC, though.


74 posted on 11/10/2007 6:05:02 PM PST by melissa_in_ga (Duncan Hunter for President 2008)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I wouldn’t let it bugh you. Just shrugh it off...


75 posted on 11/10/2007 6:05:32 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: Desparado

Oh, did I mention SEC sports ? Univ Tenn football, basketball and Lady Vols for the women. Atlanta braves and Tenn Titans plus Predators for Hocky Buffs. what’s more to ask for? As a native New Englander, I just don”t tell people I’m from the North and we all get along fine.


76 posted on 11/10/2007 6:07:27 PM PST by Desparado
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To: prisoner6

Aw, c’mon, prisoner, it’s not THAT bad around here in Western PA. Well, maybe I’m with you on the crappy winter weather . . .and the zombie (D) leverpullers who live in the City.

But where else can you get a sandwich with coleslaw and fries in it?


77 posted on 11/10/2007 6:07:30 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia ("He sees flying saucers and acts like one, too."--Hastings on Kucinich)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
So, live in Cobb or Gwinnett. Just don’t work towards Atlanta. Drive sideways.

Izzackly. I did live in Cobb (Smyrna) for one year, when I had a job in Austell; but even in rush hour, the Decatur-Austell commute wasn't too awful. Long, but against traffic both ways.

The problem with metro Atlanta, or with any sprawling city, is that too many folks treat where they work and where they live as unrelated decisions. If you want the big house and big yard, fine; if you want to work downtown, fine. You're gonna hit traffic. Actually, in Duluth, you're gonna hit traffic pretty much 24/7.

Aside from living and working close together, the other key is scouting alternate routes. We have tons of newcomers in town who don't know any route into the city except the Interstates and main arteries; while those folks are fuming on the highway, I'm zipping along on DeKalb Avenue or Northside Parkway (my preferred route downtown when I lived in Buckhead).

78 posted on 11/10/2007 6:10:08 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: nkycincinnatikid

I have lived in several cities on the list and would rate St Louis the worst of all and Cincinnati by far the best. In fact, if you stay away from downtown at night and the high-crime black areas, such as Vine Street, Cincinnati is one of the friendliest cities I have ever been to, and I have lived in many cities around the globe. I would move there tomorrow were it not for my wife and kids who love the Northeast.


79 posted on 11/10/2007 6:12:08 PM PST by balls
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To: FreedomPoster

I’ve been telling her that for years


80 posted on 11/10/2007 6:18:15 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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