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To: cbkaty

All Gun Owners of America need to remind their Politicians that WE ARE THE GUN LOBBY and We VOTE in DROVES!

The idea that the Bill of “Rights” applies to Group Rights when it comes to Firearms and to Individual Rights when it deals with the other 9 Amendments in the Bill of Rights is patently Absurd.

RamS


9 posted on 11/09/2007 4:04:39 AM PST by RamingtonStall (More Guns ==> Less Crime! Get your CHL today! http://www.ohioccw.org/)
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To: RamingtonStall
"The idea that the Bill of “Rights” applies to Group Rights when it comes to Firearms and to Individual Rights when it deals with the other 9 Amendments in the Bill of Rights is patently Absurd."

That's the point I always make when arguing the 2nd Amendment with anti-gun types. Usually leaves them sputtering...

47 posted on 11/09/2007 5:48:01 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: RamingtonStall

Yeah, that is true. It is the one thing that really seems to be very powerful, since otherwise, they just go back to “but it says well-regulated militia...are you a militia.”


209 posted on 11/09/2007 10:08:52 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: RamingtonStall; Eaker; humblegunner; thackney; Squantos; Travis McGee; wolfcreek; TheMom; ...

Some would say we vote from the rooftops as well...

They certainly understand they can exercise a policy that would ban and infringe on our inalienable and individual right to keep and bear arms...

But try to implement it is another totally issue and problem...

I’m sure this again will be an other in a long line of irritations to some of us...

We’ll manage to be the fly in the ointment once again...

One of these days someone up there will realize we are not the problem...We are a solution...

One other thing to note...And this is kinda important...

In order to trigger the strict scrutiny test or standard, the Court would have to find that the Second Amendment is a “fundamental right” which it will not do...I don’t believe the individual right camp is even arguing that it is a fundamental right. If the “fundamental right” issue is put before the Court, we loose 6-3...That’s because no gun law - none - would meet the strict scrutiny test and the Court would know such a holding would strike down every gun law in the Country. That they will not do...

The scope of a “good” ruling from the SCOTUS...On this issue will foster litigation on its scope for many years to come...In my view, it’s overly optimistic to believe that the Democratically-controlled Senate is going to approve any “strict constructionist” judges/justices you believe the Democrat-in-Republican-clothing Giuliani is going to appoint...It will never happen...

Also, there is absolutely no support for the contention that a proven liar like Giuliani is going to appoint strict constructionist judges...

Also, don’t be fooled by labels on judges...Unless the President is willing to make covert inquiries as to how a potential judge or SCOTUS...Justice feels specifically about guns, then we know nothing...

Giuliani would never make such an inquiry!!!

Judge Robert H. Bork was clearly the most qualified, most conservative, strict constructionist judge ever nominated for the U.S. Supreme Court...He was ALSO rabidly anti-gun and anti-2A. He would have been a disaster for us...

The folks who think “Giuliani isn’t great, but he’s okay” are going to be as surprised as President Eisenhower when he saw the opinions issued by his conservative choice for the Supreme Court. — William Brennan

Brennan turned out to be the most liberal Justice in modern times...We simply cannot let Giuliani get the Republican nomination.


686 posted on 11/11/2007 5:33:58 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: RamingtonStall

“WE ARE THE GUN LOBBY and We VOTE in DROVES!”

If the court decides against the 2nd, THIS could be THE issue of the ‘08 election.


736 posted on 11/11/2007 5:49:31 PM PST by Mrs.Z
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To: RamingtonStall

And furthermore, it should apply the 2nd Amendment to protect individuals from oppression by the states, using the 14th Amendment.


1,218 posted on 11/18/2007 8:32:43 PM PST by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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