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To: EternalVigilance
I don't know why all I keep seeing are these tired, weak, irrelevant arguments that have one and only one grace: they they exhibit an ingenuity born of desperation.

Even Blackmun, the author of Roe, admits that if an unborn child is a person, they are to be protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.

And IF wishes were horses, all men would ride.

But wishes aren't horses and, whatever they may be morally or scientifically, fetuses aren't people UNDER THE LAW, and never have been. You may want to make them this, and I can see why you want to do that, but this is an idea that is born of emotion, and is ultimately extraordinarily unwise.

292 posted on 11/08/2007 6:45:24 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

fetuses aren’t people UNDER THE LAW, and never have been.
***Nonsense. Several fetuses have been killed and the perpetrator of the crime has been brought to justice. Connor (Laci Peterson’s unborn baby) comes to mind.


293 posted on 11/08/2007 6:50:51 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: John Valentine
And IF wishes were horses, all men would ride.

1) You're admitting that you believe that unborn babies are not persons.

2) That belief means that you agree with Blackmun, and the substance of Roe vs. Wade.

You may want to make them this, and I can see why you want to do that, but this is an idea that is born of emotion, and is ultimately extraordinarily unwise.

A) A typical liberal tactic: Accuse those you can't out-argue of emotionalism.

B) You're the one basing your arguments on something other than knowledge, logic and reason. In fact, your arguments amount to little more than an affirmation of ancient myths about human development in the womb, not on modern scientific understanding based in the clear evidence from DNA that human life can only be identified as beginning at ONE point: The point and moment of conception.

C) Your definition of wisdom is spurious. How wise can it be to kill your posterity, or empower those who do so?

309 posted on 11/08/2007 10:34:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With "pro-lifers" like these, who needs pro-aborts?)
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