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Fred Thompson's blunder
pittsburghlive.com ^ | November 8, 2007 | Robert Novak

Posted on 11/08/2007 12:00:05 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

WASHINGTON -- Fred Thompson was well into a prolonged dialogue about abortion with interviewer Tim Russert on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday when he said something stunning for social conservatives: "I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors." He then went further: "You can't have a (federal) law" that "would take young, young girls ... and say, basically, we're going to put them in jail."

Those comments sent e-mails flying across the country reflecting astonishment and rage by pro-life Republicans who had turned to Thompson as their best presidential bet for 2008. No anti-abortion legislation ever has proposed criminal penalties against women having abortions, much less their parents. Jailing women is a spurious issue raised by abortion rights activists. What Thompson said could be expected from NARAL.

Thompson's comments revealed astounding lack of sensitivity about the abortion issue. He surely anticipated that Russert would cite Thompson's record favoring state's rights on abortion. Whether the candidate just blurted out what he said or planned it, it reflects failure to realize how much his chances for the presidential nomination depend on social conservatives.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; axisofdesperation; elections; fredthompson; hollywood; novak; prolife; romneysleazemachine; sleepyfred
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To: Swordfished
...if you're pro-life and that's your single-issue...

A mighty big if.

...then if you had to choose between Thompson and Romney, you should be voting for Romney...

ROFLMAO

Yes, all pro-lifers should line up behind the slippery Massachusetts politician with a staunch 35-year pro-abortion history and a convenient Road to Ames conversion.

Riiiiight.

221 posted on 11/08/2007 9:38:59 AM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you can’t buy South Carolina. You can’t even rent it.”)
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To: Petronski

The Romneyites have a huge problem.

Mitt is more like Rudy than anyother candidate running for the GOP nomination. Neither man is a conservative. Rudy is the anti-conservative and can’t be trusted. While Romney`s never given one good reason for conservatives to trust him.

If you are a conservative and you care about the future of the GOP, accepting either Mitt or Rudy as the nominee is going to take a huge leap of faith. I’m not ready for either one and probably never will be.

Go Fred go!


222 posted on 11/08/2007 9:43:44 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Swordfished
I just want consistency...if you're pro-life and that's your single-issue, then if you had to choose between Thompson and Romney, you should be voting for Romney, as Romney supports a Right-to-Life amendment and Thompson doesn't.

That is so true. It is mind-boggling to see the mental gymnatistics people are going through in order to deny it.

223 posted on 11/08/2007 9:44:50 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Common sense conservatives unite 4 Mitt 2 defeat Rudy and then Hillary)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

gymnatistics = a specially rigorous form of gymnastics.


224 posted on 11/08/2007 9:45:58 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Common sense conservatives unite 4 Mitt 2 defeat Rudy and then Hillary)
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To: Still Thinking; All

Can someone tell me what QUESTION he was responding to. On the face of it, this is very confusing and a bad thing.

But, what was the question EXACTLY?

He is just saying he is against criminalizing little girls. What is wrong with that?


225 posted on 11/08/2007 10:00:04 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Dick Cheney should have gone hunting with Hillary." -- Yakov Smirnoff)
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To: rwfromkansas
Well, there are some fanatics here that want anyone getting an abortion when Roe v Wade is overturned to be punished with prison or worse. They don't say how, and they don't make exceptions.

What they want is total, unmitigated, absolutism. Kinda like the communists.

226 posted on 11/08/2007 10:04:27 AM PST by Pistolshot (As long as you are waterboarding the Jihadists with pigfat, I'm all for it.)
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To: rwfromkansas
But, what was the question EXACTLY?

See post my post #126 but it would be more effective to watch the interview if it's available online.

227 posted on 11/08/2007 10:12:29 AM PST by McGruff (A "Big Time" Fred Thompson supporter!)
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To: John Valentine

Maybe for you but I cant vote for someone who thinks the 14th amendment does not cover the unborn..


228 posted on 11/08/2007 10:13:41 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: colderwater
"One can oppose abortion just fine without using the crude tools of the criminal justice system to eliminate it."

Just like Rudy and Hillary... We want fewer abortions we just dont want to screw with the law to make abortion illegal..

229 posted on 11/08/2007 10:16:15 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: ari-freedom

No, the problem is fred decided that the unborn are not people because if they were they would be afforded the same liberties *including life* as newborns... with the force of law


230 posted on 11/08/2007 10:17:34 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: rwfromkansas

I have NEVER seen the establishment more anxious to bury a candidate.


231 posted on 11/08/2007 10:18:05 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Spiff

If our choices come down to Giuliani, Romney, or Thompson, who do pro-lifers vote for? Or, who would they consider the most pro-life of the 3? I’m talking about those who would vote on the pro-life issue alone. Not immigration, not taxes, not the war in Iraq.


232 posted on 11/08/2007 10:18:13 AM PST by murron
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To: JMack

My take is he is saying it should not be criminalized..


233 posted on 11/08/2007 10:18:34 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: FreePoster

So is Rudy and Mitt, if you’re really pro life you have to look at other (R’s)


234 posted on 11/08/2007 10:19:29 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: paudio

Go after the doctor, give clemency to the girl but for the love of G*d it *HAS TO BE ILLEGAL*


235 posted on 11/08/2007 10:20:29 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Drew68

Sure but the R’s have to realize much of the appeal they have to Christians is the pro life plank, maybe not a majority but defiantly a power, mess with them at your own risk..

cat calls of ‘You’re enabling Hillary’ mean little when you ask us to pull the lever for someone who is ok with teh legal murder of unborn kids..


236 posted on 11/08/2007 10:23:22 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: samtheman
self-defined purists would have us sit in our homes, and sit on our hands, while our enemies tear apart what's left of our nation and our freedoms,

Like the freedom not to be killed in the womb?

237 posted on 11/08/2007 10:24:01 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: samtheman
But to make it a federal crime is to do what the leftists do: rule everyone in America from the on-high sanctuary of Washington DC.

Bravo Sierra... Life is an immutable right! and the federal government can not abrogate to the states the ability to infringe on immutable rights. A state can not be allowed to lock people up for inconvenient political speech in the name of federalism.

238 posted on 11/08/2007 10:25:32 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: samtheman
"What part of the concept of federalism are you having trouble comprehending?"

the part where were allowing states to step on immutable, defined, constitutional rights which are *specifically* documented to prevent the abrogation of said rights to the states.

239 posted on 11/08/2007 10:26:57 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: samtheman

“It’s amazing that here on a conservative website, populated by people who I agree with most of the time, I have to spend my time explaining what is certainly the most fundamental bedrock concept of American freedom.”

Can California pass a law saying conservative speech is illegal and if you say that, for example, abortion should be illegal you can be arrested? In your rather simplistic view of federalism it can..


240 posted on 11/08/2007 10:28:52 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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