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Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani
The Politico ^ | November 7, 2007 | Mike Allen

Posted on 11/07/2007 5:51:19 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

Pat Robertson, one of the nation's most influential Christian leaders, plans to endorse former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani today, the Politico has learned.

Giuliani has struggled to win support of social conservatives because of his moderate views on abortion and gay rights. But now he has one of the most resonant imprimaturs with Christian voters.

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), meanwhile, plans to announce his surprise endorsement of former Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for president on Wednesday, a campaign official told Politico.

The endorsement is to be announced in Dubuque, Iowa.

The alliance gives McCain — once a front-runner, now struggling — a crucial bridge to social conservatives, an important constituency that has remained suspicious of him despite his opposition to abortion.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008endorsements; abortion; christianvote; giuliani; liberalrepublicans; patrobertson; prolife; rinorudy; rinostampede; rudy; rudygiuliani; scarletwhore; sellout
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To: HamiltonJay
Yes, because you know NYC became SO much more liberal under his reign than under Koch and others

Indeed did it -- from gun control laws to lawsuits protecting illegals to taxpayer-funded abortion to leaving New York with the second-highest debt in the nation. Rudy accomplished liberal feats that Democrats couldn't.

241 posted on 11/07/2007 12:34:18 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: HamiltonJay
Put Hillary in charge of appointing 4-6 Supreme court justices

Six Supreme Court nominations? Do you expect the Ebola virus inflict two-thirds of SCOTUS?

It's this kind of hyperbole that makes those trying to scare conservatives into voting for RINOs look foolish.

What you don't seem to understand is that RINOs like Giuliani give us equally bad judges as Democrats -- from John Paul Stevens to David Souter.

And, with a shrinking Republican minority in Congress, there isn't any chance Giuliani would expend political capital fighting for conservative judges.

But, a Giuliani Presidency guarantees a conservative President wouldn't be nominating judges until at least 2016.

242 posted on 11/07/2007 12:39:41 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky
OK guys...let's say it's election day and you have Rudy vs. Queen Hillary. Who are you going to vote for?

In the primaries, I'm voting for Hunter...a true conservative. But if Rudy gets the nod from the GOP, I'll have to go w/ the lesser of two evils.

WatchingHillary.com


243 posted on 11/07/2007 12:39:47 PM PST by GaryLee1990 (www.WatchingHillary.com)
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To: StatenIsland
We CAN return to true conservatism after a Giuliani presidency - especially if his running mate is a Duncan Hunter type.

In 2016?! After Giuliani has moved the party to the left and entrenched the GOP in the same minority it was in before Reagan took office? If Giuliani survived eight years, his liberal policies would likely result in a Democrat taking over anyway.

Putting Giuliani in office sets back the conservative movement 10 to 20 years.

A Hillary Presidency sets the stage for another Reagan or '94 revolution with in four years.

244 posted on 11/07/2007 12:43:37 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Colofornian
So, the RINOS put a RINO as nominee; he loses; and it's those who bucked the RINOS' fault. [I guess that's a good way of reversing the blame in advance].

It's a weak psychological ploy and won't work. It didn't work in 2006 and the GOP didn't learn. Guiliani will NOT inspire the base to campaign and drum up more voters - heck, he won't even inspire the base themselves to come out on election day. When a party disses their base, they're toast. AND it's their own fault. (Again, as in 2006)
245 posted on 11/07/2007 12:47:14 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: HamiltonJay
your convictions will get another 1.2 BILLION children murdered over the next 40 years

That's what will happen if Giuliani reaches office.

To believe Giuliani would nominate judges opposed to Roe when he has been and continues to be rabidly in favor of abortion rights makes you dangerously delusional. And, never mind, he appointed liberal judges by an 8-1 margin in New York.

Having blind faith RINOs will govern conservatively is a bigger obstacle to conservatism than Hillary Clinton.

246 posted on 11/07/2007 12:48:10 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Wow, just wow... Pat disappoints me one of the few times I can remember.


247 posted on 11/07/2007 12:49:44 PM PST by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. accept no conservative substitute... he is the real deal...)
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To: Theo
We FReepers are so eager to hate high-profile Christians, aren’t we?

No, we're eager to "hate" high-profile Christians that sell out Biblical morality for their own financial and political gain.

Jim Bakker deserves more respect than Robertson.

248 posted on 11/07/2007 12:52:33 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: aligncare
Talk about elitist. That’s 1300 flesh and blood people alive every year due to the mayor’s anti crime initiatives. Oh, but they are just New Yorkers ... so they don’t count, eh?

Well, first of all, just as you attribute others sporting an overestimate (& to a certain degree, you're right) of what a "pro-life" POTUS can do for the pre-born; in this case, you're attributing an overestimate of what one man did for NYers.

IOW, crime rates go up & down for a whole host of other reasons than crime-fighting measures by the powers that be. (I've seen more intensified measures implemented; and the crime rates still go up (go figure).

I just happen to think that we're more in line with that time in Germany where the Nazis had yet to declare war on multiple countries, but it was "open season" on Jews. [In my analogy, it's not the govt that is directly parallel to the "Nazis"...the true "powers that be" are the demonic agents of the air as described in Ephesians 6]. The Jews in our era are the pre-born. Oh, sure the govt. (like the German govt of '38 & '39) practices "law & order" on behalf of the rest of us. [Who knows, perhaps the German murder rate of non-German Jewish citizens went down by 1300 in 1938?] Somehow, I'd just don't think we'd give them an "A+" for "law & order" during the Krystalnacht era.

249 posted on 11/07/2007 12:53:51 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: SmoothTalker; All
“What kind of conservative religious leader endorses a pro-abort and pro-gay candidate?”

Pat has been running around writing books and giving speeches about the Illegal invasion and how globalization is evil. Now endorsing the anti-Pat?

Must be alien abduction or mind altering substances. WHAT UP, PAT?

250 posted on 11/07/2007 12:54:32 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Robertson must be senile.


251 posted on 11/07/2007 12:54:39 PM PST by conservative blonde (Let's call the Jr. Senator from Illinois by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Theo
I don’t understand how a Christian like PR could endorse Rudy.

For the same reason Pat has endorsed man-made global warming, opposed the death penalty, rationalized China's one-child genocide policy and sold out a Christian cable TV network for a cool billion dollars.

252 posted on 11/07/2007 12:55:36 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: steve-b

We can’t afford to have Rudy as Commander in Chief. He’d be worse than Hillary.


253 posted on 11/07/2007 12:56:27 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: aligncare
Each state regulates gun laws. The courts have seen to that. Some states are more restrictive than others. As president, even if Giuliani wanted to restrict guns at the federal level, he couldn’t possibly get around the second amendment.

The BATF, an executive-branch agency, has been harrassing gun dealers and driving them out of business. The president can do plenty to help or hurt gun sellers and owners.

254 posted on 11/07/2007 12:56:53 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: aligncare
Oh my, there appears to be a split developing among social conservatives. Is politics fun or what?

I'm sure it is a lot of fun for liberals and RINOs.

255 posted on 11/07/2007 12:57:51 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: HamiltonJay
Yes I do believe that Rudy will nominate judges that are constutitutionalist in nature

Call me. I have some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in.

256 posted on 11/07/2007 1:04:27 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Colofornian

I will say it again: I accept converts to the pro life cause. As far as I am concerned, Rudy never “converted” and was extremely pro abortion while he was mayor -and I live in NYC. He was an excellent mayor but he was much loved by NARAL. He would not even condemn partial birth abortion. He alienated me on the life issue.


257 posted on 11/07/2007 1:04:41 PM PST by juliej (Vote GOP!)
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To: Ol' Sparky

If we SURVIVE Hillary. I am sure she is drawing up plans to arrest Rush!


258 posted on 11/07/2007 1:05:51 PM PST by juliej (Vote GOP!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

ROFL!


259 posted on 11/07/2007 1:10:09 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ellery
Giuliani very publicly turned down a big Saudi check on behalf of 9/11 victims. But then he very quietly turned around and accepted big Saudi checks when they were made out to Giuliani Partners.

The 9/11 Ka-ching candidate.

260 posted on 11/07/2007 1:11:44 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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