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The tuna can thing-real legwork involved there. Go to a store, any store, buy a can of tuna, any brand. You will almost certainly find it half filled with oil or water as opposed to the beforetimes when tuna cans were packed to the brim with tuna.

You can not have it both ways.

You can not discount anecdotal examples no matter how numerous in favor of official government data no matter how flawed and say the government approach is somehow rational, scientific and correct.

Inflation is built into the very structure of the non market based economy erected by that Supreme Bolshevik, FDR.

We the People, have been conditioned to accept the terms of debate given to us by They, the Bureaucrats, from on high and now we,the people, are further conditioned to accept outright lies given us by they, the bureaucrats.

It may not be possible to find the statistics and fact based arguments you seek in what is fundamentally an irrational intellectual construct (the modern economy).

Even the mighty Alan Greenspan himself recently seemed to suggest (it is hard to tell beneath the mumbo jumbo) that the invisible hand of the Federal Reserve is no better and possibly even worse than the invisible hand of a hard currency economy.

Make of that what you will.

Best regards,

We may not be doomed, but it's pretty clear that few people on this thread are chess players. In chess, a game can be over long before a checkmate (which rarely occurs) is even possible - and a casual player looking at a given board position may conclude that everything looks just fine. The comments on this thread remind me of such casual chess players, who see that White is a Queen, Knight, and Rook ahead but fail to notice as the grandmaster does that Black has a forced checkmate in twelve moves. ;)

So yes, people are still driving around in three-ton SUV's they haven't paid for and putting $3.50/gallon gas on their credit cards and living in houses with negative amortization loans. Like sprinters leaning way forward to try to break the tape - one slight stumble and they lose.

This is priceless. You have a story about tuna companies skimping on tuna. You have no proof for this. Instead, you insist that I buy tuna, and somehow magically compare it to "the beforetimes".

Sorry, I really don't know what your point here is. Do you?

You can not have it both ways.

Can't have what? Tuna?

You can not discount anecdotal examples no matter how numerous in favor of official government data no matter how flawed and say the government approach is somehow rational, scientific and correct.

I most certainly can. The anecdotal examples are not really all that numerous. And no one here has shown any flaw whatsoever in the government data, because no one has actually address the government data in any objective or scientific way. I doubt anyone here (including myself) has even actually looked at the government data.

Inflation is built into the very structure of the non market based economy erected by that Supreme Bolshevik, FDR.

On that we agree. Inflation at a certain pace is basically the normal state of affairs. And guess what? The government statistician agrees with you too. He reported positive inflation in 2007Q3.

And yet you're still arguing w/him. Based on nothing. (except something about tuna). Are you guys really under the impression that when the government says "inflation was 0.8%", you can say "but there was inflation!" and you're something disputing the government?

It may not be possible to find the statistics and fact based arguments you seek in what is fundamentally an irrational intellectual construct (the modern economy).

Gobbledygook.