Posted on 11/01/2007 5:07:20 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
In a rare rebuke, the city's bar association condemned a judge who dismissed rape charges in the alleged gang rape of a prostitute and instead called it a theft of services.
The prostitute admitted going to a home on Sept. 20 to have paid sex with a customer but said she was instead gang-raped by four men, including the customer, while he fixed a gun on her.
Municipal Judge Teresa Carr Deni dropped the rape and sexual-assault charges at an Oct. 4 preliminary hearing, but upheld robbery, false imprisonment and conspiracy charges against Dominique Gindraw.
Deni has since heightened the furor in defending her decision to a newspaper.
''She consented and she didn't get paid,'' Deni told the Philadelphia Daily News. ''I thought it was a robbery.''
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She consented with sex for money with 1 man.. she was gang raped at gun point.... sorry, but that’s far more than theft of services.
Re: she isn’t entitled to “equal protection under the law”.
I am not going to argue with someone who thinks there should be levels of protection under the law. Let me guess, you are entitled to these protections, right?
How sorry do I need to feel for a woman who placed herself in the position in the first place.
The men are animals, sick, twisted and disgusting. But in this case, so is the victim. She asked for it.
Look, I never would place myself in that situation. When do women actually need to be responsible for their own actions.
What she did is kinda like playing Russian Roulette. She loaded the gun, she placed it in her mouth, she may not have meant to pull the trigger, in fact at the last minute she changed her mind, but the gun went off. How much is her death her fault and not accidental?
You presume the prostitue is telling the truth?
“since at some point they will offer their services for money.”
More realistically at ANY point....
I don’t believe there are many hookers out their that won’t negotiate a price given the opportunity.
Nope, whe consented to waiting for at least one other man to show up with $100.00 for sex.
Let me fill you in on something.....it’s not a perfect world, and people do not always do what they should. This does not mean they should be GANG RAPED!
There was recently a girl in the midwest who was killed going to a nanny job using Craigslist. So this is all too believable.
Why should you NOT believe her story?
I must be old fashioned. Where was the candle light dinner? What movie did they go see? Any dancing and cocktails? All four of these guys need to spend 25 years at Graterford.
Are you a man or a woman?
Why the outrage? The judge presents an interesting legal distinction. Whores are assaulted violently all the time. Just watch any documentary on the subject. If men who don’t pay her also have forced sex with her, is it not indeed “theft of services”? After all, isn’t she a WHORE? Perhaps the “victim” will choose another line of work after this wake-up call. She is lucky to be alive. I hope she finds Jesus and gets off the streets.
I think you misread Dusty’s comment. You might want to look at it again.
A man.
Why this matters to you, I have no idea.
I apologize. I read it wrong and responded to quickly.
Because you seem to think that having sex with four men is much more distasteful than the two men she agreed to have sex with.
To a prostitute (a WOMAN)I doubt if she really was offended by the train of men. I think she was more than likely mad that she didn’t get paid. Thus the crime of robbery.
To any normal thinking man or woman, your line of so-called reasoning is sick.
I hate to tell you this but such "props" are used not just by prostitutes. You would be surprised by the things "normal" people are into.
I think the judge was out of line & NO those kind of props aren't in my home. The woman was gang raped & she did not agree to that. She may be a prostitute but she still has rights.
Do you really want this crime to be called and sentenced the same exact way that you would want the man who stalks your wife in a underground parking garage, puts his grimy hands over her mouth, hits her a few times, puts a knife to her throat - - then cuts her pants off her as he hold her with his knee on her throat on a cold, concrete floor then brutally rapes and tears her.
Look, it isn’t the same crime. One is rape, the other is sex without pay. Any reasonable person can tell the difference. I’ve said enough.
Instead, three other men arrived, and Gindraw pulled a gun and ordered the woman to have sex with all of them, she testified.
Someone can make a case that she "consented" to sex with one male, and perhaps two if the story of the friend who was going to bring another 100 dollars was to be believed. However, she was clearly forced at gunpoint to have sex with men she DID NOT agree to have sex with, and THAT is RAPE! Going by the statement she made, I think there are four counts of rape here. She was lured there with a promise of payment, and upon arrival she was told that there wouldn't BE any payment.
Nonetheless, as sportutegrl has pointed out, we need to wait for statements from the others involved, in the event this is another Duke case.
No, this is rape.
You may not want to think of the victim the same way, but prostitues bleed and can suffer too, just like any other living being.
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