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To: Dead Corpse
You mean the Thomas Jefferson who intervened in North Africa without a declaration of war? Or how about when James Madison, who was not only, unlike Jefferson, a delegate to the Constitutional Convention, but actually penned the document, did the same thing during his Administration? Would Ron Paul consider those acts unconstitutional, or just when Bush does it?

Also, those quotes need to be kept in the context of the Wars of the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars, which was a far different situation than those we've faced in the 20th and 21st centuries. Would they have had us leave Britain to stand alone against Nazi Germany? Would they have objected to NATO, preferring that we abandon Europe to the Soviets? I rather think not.

If the Constitutional Convention had truly wished to prevent treaties of alliance, they might have limited the President's and the Senate's power to do so in Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution. They didn't, though, probably because they foresaw that it might be necessary or desirable to do so in the future.
83 posted on 11/04/2007 5:27:03 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.... Valor.)
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To: The Pack Knight
So TJ wanting us to fight Piracy requires a declaration of war? Letters of M&R are spelled out in the Constitution. Duh... Also, the Pasha of Tripoli was not only attacking our ships, he actually declared war on us after TJ refused to accede to his demands.

If that first one is all the better you've got, catch up with me after you've learned something...

87 posted on 11/04/2007 6:52:44 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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