Posted on 10/29/2007 8:12:17 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
How can you tell a RINO from a real conservative?
To me, the greatest (or worst) RINOs were the ones elected in the 1994 sweep of Republicans in congress on the “Contract with America”, only to completely abandon it after they took office. Especially what burns my arse is the most important parts of the contract killed: term limits and line-item vetoes. The names of the turncoat RINOs that voted against those bills after supporting it to get into office in 1994 should wear a “RINO” on their forehead much like the Scarlet Letter.
A Republican who mentions "hunting" when talking about the 2nd Amendment.
I had never heard of Duncan Hunter before I learned of him here on FreeRepublic. Tom Tancredo is from our neighbor state Colorado, and I like his views on illegal immigration. When I heard Fred Thompson was being encouraged to run, I joined his drafting website. Fred Thompson can carry the Conservative mantle proudly for all of us. I know your argument as to McCain/Feingold. Every one of them make mistakes from time-to-time, and this is one mistake Fred acknowledges.
Just my opinion of course, would you like a piece of Pumpkin Pie?
Not a big pumpkin pie, guy, thanks. I appreciate your thoughts. I guess I need to be quiet and keep watching. That’s my lesson learned for the night.
That’s a good one!
Or, the media actually "likes" him/her.
Or, he wears drag...
I like Duncan Hunter very much. However, his numbers in these polls (can’t believe them all) have just not moved.
***Duncan Hunter is at 5%. Vanity.
Intrade ^ | 10/28/07 | Kevmo
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Posted on 10/28/2007 4:48:28 PM PDT by Kevmo
Hunter supporters are constantly being told that our candidate is at 1%. The only real basis for this is biased Media polls. An unbiased source would be Intrade, which has Hunter at a $5 (corresponding to 5%) ask price on the faux exchange, no activity on the real exchange. Futures markets have proven to be better indicators than polls.
Anyone can sign up at InTrade, especially in their play money futures contract market.
http://play.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/
I hope Thompson isn’t a RINO.
Are you series? It was the old guard who, led by Bob Dole, attacked the 94 Revolution. Mind you... several did corrupt as they went for still higher office (Lindsay Graham for one).
I basically agree. I have stopped using the RINO term, since it implies that "Republican" is the same as "conservative."
There are (at least) two factions in the Republican Party - which I think of as Rockefeller Republicans and Goldwater Republicans. While I do have some important disagreements with Goldwater's politics (particularly in his later years), I consider Goldwater, and not Reagan, to be the prototype conservative. The Rockefeller Republicans are not really moderates; they are "big-business" people, globalists, and they do not really care about following the Constitution.
The Rockefeller Republicans have been in control of the Party since 1984, and this includes the current administration.
I'm not convinced, though, that 90% of registered Republicans are "moderates." I believe that most Republicans consider themselves to be "conservatives." The problem is that most people today, particularly the younger voters, don't have a clue about what a conservative is.
Kevmo:
That’s why I say our problem isn’t RINOS, it’s CINOS. ***The problem with calling them CINOs is that they’ll swear up & down that they’re conservative.
And they believe it. I am actually quite pessimistic now. The Bush administration has been a ship-wreck disaster for the Conservative cause. I say this, not because Bush is a conservative (he is not), but because he has been accepted by "conservatives" (CINOS, but also by a lot of real, but short-term oriented, conservatives), and because he is known (incorrectly) as a conservative. Millions of Americans who voted for Bush have since repented of their folly, and since they consider Bush to be a conservative, they are now determined never again to vote for a Conservative. Last November was a wake-up call.
What about the rest of the post?
But they stop short at calling themselves socons — social conservatives. I know they don’t like being called solibs.
So the tension is between socons and wannabe conservatives.
The best name is like the socon one, where each side accepts it. We don’t consider them to be conservatives, and they do. So we need a name they’ll admit to — maybe pragmacons. Principled socons vs. compromising pragmacons.
And to add to that, perhaps we TrueCons wouldn’t really like calling them Pragmacons because it implies Con as part of the name. Maybe we would call them PragmaCINOs or PragmaPubs. I like “UIN Republicans” — they’ll vote for anything with an R in front of it, regardless of what that means to us.
The thing for PragmaCINOs to keep in mind is that this is not a GOP website. It is a social conservative one.
Good post, good thoughtful points. Rockyfeller and Goldwater is very good divider.
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