There is no bill to take guns away from veterans. If you have been involuntarily committed to inpatient treatment in a mental hospital, or a court has found you either a danger to yourself or others, or mentally incompetent to manage your affairs, you can’t own a gun under federal law. The feds want states to report these findings to the FBI for inclusion in the NICS check required when you buy a gun.
Again, how many vets with PTSD have been forced to submit to inpatient psych. care?
This isn’t about seeing a shrink, it’s not about family counseling, it’s not about ADHD, it’s not about whose taking psych. drugs. It’s limited to reporting cases where people have had a court or commission with due process protections finding them a danger to themselves or others, or sending to the a psych hospital against their will.
This bill came out of the Va. Tech. shooting, but there have been a number of other cases before that have attracted attention.
The GOA is being deceptive. You can’t invent your own name for a bill, describe it inaccurately, have people call their Congressmen about it, and then accuse those Congressmen of lying about not knowing what bill they are talking about.
Or “other lawful entity”, don’t forget. I’m not sure just who they mean by that, since the original law just said court or commission.
BATFE just got a fed court to define “other lawful entity” to be two physicians signatures, if I remember correctly. Others on the thread will, I’m sure, flog me if I’m wrong.
I find reason for extreme care on this bill, Schumer and Brady et al would hardly be pushing hard for a bill that allowed more people to get or keep guns, or make it easier for people to get them back once taken away.
Using V Tech as an excuse is also odd- a state failure to report is a state issue and should not require a federal response.
There is a slippery slope, AND IT BEGINS IN NEW YORK!
No they're not.
There is no bill to take guns away from veterans.
No again. BUT... There is a bill that is vague enough that regulators (especially the BATFE kind) can at their whim add huge groups of individuals to the NICS list. While there is no language that specifically says a vet diagnosed with PTSD can't own a firearm, there is language that could indeed be used by the BATFE to justify a future interpretation that removes this right from veterans. Or for that matter anyone who has had such a finding.
This kind of regulatory expansion of law has happened before and it will happen again. I don't wish to knowingly give them the tools to do it.
The NRA is wrong here. That isn't a bash, just a statement of fact as I see it. Instead of siding with the opponents of our rights, the NRA should be pointing out (loudly, forcefully and constantly) that the Virginia Tech shootings were enabled and enhanced by the policies of the administrators in fighting against and preventing of CCW on campus. They were guilty of disarming students, they bragged about it, and the NRA has allowed them to quietly walk away from their complicity.
I’ll take the GOA’s word over a politician’s i.e. a Senator or their spokesperson’s word anyday.
I recall something similiar starting during the Clinton regime.